Universal Geneve 885103/02 “Nina Rindt”

As an aside, I am not a fan of watches with nicknames, but as long as they are given names, I’m glad someone at least selected Nina Rindt to name it after (as near as I can tell, around 2005). And given that, it would be wrong not to revisit some of the images from the 1960s of Nina with her Universal Geneve 885103/02 to kick things off:

This section will not touch upon the 885103/01, which is known as the, sigh, “Evil Nina”, and features a black dial with white registers, among other differentiating features.
[1] Universal Geneve (email, April 20 and 21, 2020).
Below is an aggregation all of the Universal Geneve 885103/02 (aka “Nina Rindt”) pieces I have located. If you find others, please contact me with a link and/or images and serial number if available. I am not including the “Evil Nina” (885103/01) in this serial number project.
This project is limited in number of serials that are available, as many pieces are posted online without caseback images or serial number provided. I have seen reference to comments that these serials were easily worn off, but just as often it appears from images that the caseback has been polished completely, or a non-original caseback is used.
I am only listing the “second register hand design” just to keep the table relatively manageable (fewer columns). The other two register hands should both be the same design as the second register hand. This can be confirmed by clicking on any row, which brings up full detail for the watch selected.
Universal Geneve 885103/02 (aka “Nina Rindt”) serial numbers: 2351729 – 2569859.
There are a number of pieces that are 2569xxx, with the last 3 digits unknown.
I am setting aside, for the moment, comments on the range for the 855105/02 (Pulsations dial), including a sale at Phillips of a 3.7m serial.
This range of serial numbers, if you believe the Universal Geneve production dates from Universal Watch Geneve by Pietro Sala, corresponds to ~1964 – 1967.
In the table below, each row is intended to be unique, though given serial numbers are often not shown, the same watch may appear multiple times. I do my best to use visual cues to pair the same watch posted at different times and locations. When the serial number can’t be established, I give the timepiece a unique ID (based on any part of the serial that is known, if any, plus a related date posted).
If you see any duplicates, errors, have serial numbers to include, or know of other Ninas to add, please drop me a note.
Caveats:
Description of pieces are generally based upon public images/video. For some detail, we do not have images and have to rely on text descriptions from the individual posting the timepiece. Some elements are often difficult to determine from pictures, including color of hands. For example, whether the chrono seconds hand is black or blue, and crown logo, rounded or pointed. If I have a 50-50 guess, I leave the detail as “unknown.”
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Date | Formatted Date | Source | Prod Date | Initial Sale Date | Initial Sale Detail | Dial | Logo at 12 | Dial Text | Brand Lettercase | Text at 6 | Main Hand Color | Chrono Hand Color | Hour Hand Design | Minute Hand Design | Chrono Hand Design | Second Register Hand Design | Minute Register Hand Design | Hour Register Hand Design | Minute Register Lines | Minute Register Layout | Index Markers Luminous | Crown | Bezel | Crystal | Case | Lug/Bevels | Caseback | Caseback Text | Caseback Added | Caseback Inside | Caseback Inside Added | Movement | Chrono Bridge Stamp | Train Bridge Stamp | Import Code | Original Strap | Buckle | Bracelet | Bracelet Date | Clasp | Endlinks | Box | Guarantee | Service Booklet | Manual | Purchase Papers | Hang Tag | Extract | Sale Status | |||||
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Case No. | Image | Reference | Date | Formatted Date | Source | Prod Date | Initial Sale Date | Initial Sale Detail | Dial | Logo at 12 | Dial Text | Brand Lettercase | Text at 6 | Main Hand Color | Chrono Hand Color | Hour Hand Design | Minute Hand Design | Chrono Hand Design | Second Register Hand Design | Minute Register Hand Design | Hour Register Hand Design | Minute Register Lines | Minute Register Layout | Index Markers Luminous | Crown | Bezel | Crystal | Case | Lug/Bevels | Caseback | Caseback Text | Caseback Added | Caseback Inside | Caseback Inside Added | Movement | Chrono Bridge Stamp | Train Bridge Stamp | Import Code | Original Strap | Buckle | Bracelet | Bracelet Date | Clasp | Endlinks | Box | Guarantee | Service Booklet | Manual | Purchase Papers | Hang Tag | Extract | URL | Price USD | Sale Status |
2351729 | ![]() |
885103/02 | 20,200,310 | 10-03-2020 | Dealer | Applied | UNIVERSAL GENEVE COMPAX | Uppercase | SWISS T | Silver | Blue | Std w lume | Std w lume | Std w lume | Thick with lume | Thick with lume | Thick with lume | At 3-6-9 | Standard | Standard | U-only | Tachymetre | Unknown | Plain | None | None | UG logo ACIER INOXYDABLE SWISS HF logo | Etching at 3 o'clock | UG 130 / Valjoux 72 | UNIVERSAL GENEVE SWISS 130 | 17 SEVENTEEN JEWELS UNADJUSTED | None | No | Unknown | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | No | No | No | No | No | No | Yes | Sold | ||||||||
2351729 | ![]() |
885103/02 | 20,190,318 | 01-01-1970 | Private | Applied | UNIVERSAL GENEVE COMPAX | Uppercase | Unknown | Silver | Blue | Std w lume | Std w lume | Std w lume | Thick with lume | Thick with lume | Thick with lume | At 3-6-9 | Standard | Standard | U-only | Tachymetre | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | No | Unknown | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | NFS | ||||||||
2351729 | 885103/02 | 20,170,314 | 01-01-1970 | Auction | 1964 | Applied | UNIVERSAL GENEVE COMPAX | Uppercase | SWISS T | Silver | Blue | Std w lume | Std w lume | Std w lume | Thick with lume | Thick with lume | Thick with lume | At 3-6-9 | Standard | Standard | Plain | Tachymetre | Signed | Plain | Plain | None | UG logo ACIER INOXYDABLE SWISS HF logo | None | Cal 130 | UNIVERSAL GENEVE SWISS 130 | 17 SEVENTEEN JEWELS UNADJUSTED | None | No | Unknown | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | No | No | No | No | Sold | |||||||||||
2354948 | 885103/02 | 20,180,523 | 01-01-1970 | Auction | Applied | UNIVERSAL GENEVE COMPAX | Uppercase | SWISS T | Silver | Blue | Std w lume | Std w lume | Std w lume | Thin | Thin | Thin | At 3-6-9 | Standard | Standard | Unknown | Tachymetre | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | 18,733.00 | Sold | ||||||||||||
2355021 | 885103/02 | 20,210,203 | 03-02-2021 | Dealer | 1968 | Applied | UNIVERSAL GENEVE COMPAX | Uppercase | SWISS T | Silver | Blue | Std w lume | Std w lume | Std w lume | Thin | Thin | Thin | At 3-6-9 | Standard | Standard | Unknown | Tachymetre | Unknown | Plain | STAINLESS STEEL SWISS [presumably 885103/02] [presumably 235xxxx] | None | UG logo ACIER INC(?)XYDABLE SWISS HF logo | Etching: 173xx 429887 7-70? | Valjoux 72 | UNIVERSAL GENEVE SWISS [no number] | 17 SEVENTEEN JEWELS UNADJUSTED | None | No | Unknown | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | No | Yes | No | No | No | No | No | 17,350.00 | Sold | |||||||
2412076 | 885103/02 | 20,181,016 | 01-01-1970 | Dealer | Applied | UNIVERSAL GENEVE COMPAX | Uppercase | SWISS T | Black | Black | Std w lume | Std w lume | Std w lume | Thin | Thin | Thin | At 3-6-9 | Standard | Standard | Not shown, "different UG branded" | Tachymetre | Signed | Plain | STAINLESS STEEL SWISS 885103/02 2412076 [no '] | None | UG logo ACIER INOXYDABLE SWISS HF logo | None | Valjoux 72 | UNIVERSAL GENEVE SWISS 85 | 17 SEVENTEEN JEWELS UNADJUSTED | Can't tell | No | N/A | GF | 1/67 | Unknown | UW | None | None | None | Sold | |||||||||||||
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885103/02 | 20,200,508 | 08-05-2020 | Dealer | Printed | UNIVERSAL GENEVE COMPAX | Uppercase | SWISS T 25 | Black | Black | Std w lume | Std w lume | Std w lume | Midsize w lume | Midsize w lume | Midsize w lume | At 3-6-9 | Standard | Standard | Unsigned, dome | Tachymetre | Signed | Plain | Heavy wear | None | UG logo ACIER INOXYDABLE SWISS HF logo | Blue pen: 2008.8x.6xx | Valjoux 72 | UNIVERSAL GENEVE SWISS 85 | Can't tell | None | N/A | N/A | GF DGBOR | Unknown | Pointed U in corner, no surrounding | UW | Cream exterior, blue interior, gold writing with thick U logo | Yes (Muraki Watch) | None | None | None | Yes (YEN 155,000) | None | 23,500.00 | Sold | |||||||
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885103/02 | 20,200,301 | 01-03-2020 | Private | Printed | UNIVERSAL GENEVE COMPAX | Uppercase | SWISS T 25 | Black | Black | Std w lume | Std w lume | Std w lume | Midsize w lume | Midsize w lume | Midsize w lume | At 3-6-9 | Standard | Standard | Unknown | Tachymetre | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | N/A | N/A | Double-grain (GF?) | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Yes (Muraki Watch) | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Yes (YEN 155,000) | Unknown | Sold | ||||||||
2412290 | 885103/02 | 20,170,709 | 09-07-2017 | Dealer | Applied | UNIVERSAL GENEVE COMPAX | Uppercase | SWISS T | Silver | Black | Std w lume | Std w lume | Std w lume | Thin | Thin | Thin | At 3-6-9 | Standard | Standard | Shield | Tachymetre | Unknown | Plain | 885103/02 2412290 | None | UG logo ACIER INOXYDABLE SWISS HF logo | None | Valjoux 72 | UNIVERSAL GENEVE SWISS 85 | 17 SEVENTEEN JEWELS UNADJUSTED | None | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | No | No | No | 20,900.00 | Sold | ||||||||||||
2412292 | 885103/02 | 20,180,529 | 01-01-1970 | Private | Letter from 1st owner from 1966 | Applied | UNIVERSAL GENEVE COMPAX | Uppercase | Unknown | Silver | Blue | Std w lume | Std w lume | Std w lume | Thin | Thin | Thin | At 3-6-9 | Standard | Standard | Shield | Tachymetre | Unknown | Plain | Can't tell | None | UG logo ACIER INOXYDABLE SWISS HF logo | None | Valjoux 72 | UNIVERSAL GENEVE SWISS 85 | 17 SEVENTEEN JEWELS UNADJUSTED | There but can't tell | N/A | N/A | UG? | 1/67 | Side stripes, pointed U in corner, no surrounding square | UW | Unknown | Pink and white? Blue? From 1/20/1966 | Pink and white? Blue? | NFS | ||||||||||||
2412301 | 885103/02 | 20,200,512 | 12-05-2020 | Dealer | Printed | UNIVERSAL GENEVE COMPAX | Uppercase | SWISS T 25 | Black | Black | Std w lume | Std w lume | Std w lume | Thin | Thin | Thin | At 3-6-9 | Standard | Standard | Shield | Tachymetre | Unknown | Plain | ????? 885103/02 2412301 | None | UG logo ACIER INOXYDABLE SWISS HF logo | None | Unknown | UNIVERSAL GENEVE 125 | None! | None | No | Unknown | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | FS | ||||||||||
2412301 | 885103/02 | 20,190,211 | 11-02-2019 | Dealer | Printed | UNIVERSAL GENEVE COMPAX | Uppercase | SWISS T 25 | Black | Black | Std w lume | Std w lume | Std w lume | Thin | Thin | Thin | At 3-6-9 | Standard | Standard | Shield | Tachymetre | Unknown | Plain, polished circular | 885103/02 2412301 | None | UG logo ACIER INOXYDABLE SWISS HF logo | None | Valjoux 72 | UNIVERSAL GENEVE SWISS 125 (?) | None! | Unknown | No | Unknown | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | No | No | No | 22,978.00 | Sold | ||||||||||||
2453077 | 885103/02 | 20,181,027 | 01-01-1970 | Auction | Applied | UNIVERSAL GENEVE COMPAX | Uppercase | SWISS T | Silver | Blue | Std w lume | Std w lume | Std w lume | Midsize w lume | Midsize w lume | Midsize w lume | At 3-6-9 | Standard | Standard | Shield | Tachymetre | Unknown | Plain | 885103/02 2453077 | None | UG logo ACIER INOXYDABLE SWISS HF logo | Etching maybe H56146A? | Valjoux 72 | UNIVERSAL GENEVE 85 | 17 SEVENTEEN JEWELS UNADJUSTED | There but can't tell | N/A | N/A | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | 15,000.00 | Sold | ||||||||||||
2453094 | 885103/02 | 20,190,419 | 01-01-1970 | Private | Applied | UNIVERSAL GENEVE COMPAX | Uppercase | SWISS T | Silver | Blue | Std w lume | Std w lume | Std w lume | Midsize w lume | Midsize w lume | Midsize w lume | At 3-6-9 | Standard | Standard | Shield | Tachymetre | Unknown | Plain | STAINLESS STEEL SWISS 885103/02 2453094 | None | UG logo ACIER INOXYDABLE SWISS HF logo | None | Valjoux 72 | UNIVERSAL GENEVE SWISS 85 | 17 SEVENTEEN JEWELS UNADJUSTED | TJ | No | Unknown | No | N/A | N/A | N/A | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | 16,869.00 | Passed | ||||||||||||
2453183 | 885103/02 | 20,190,616 | 01-01-1970 | Private | Sold | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
2453226 | 885103/02 | 20,201,206 | 06-12-2020 | Private | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Applied | UNIVERSAL GENEVE COMPAX | Uppercase | SWISS T | Silver | Blue | Std w lume | Std w lume | Std w lume | Midsize w lume | Midsize w lume | Midsize w lume | At 3-6-9 | Standard | Standard | Shield | Tachymetre | Unknown | Plain | 885103/02 2453226 | None | UG logo ACIER INOXYDABLE SWISS HF logo | None | Valjoux 72 | UNIVERSAL GENEVE SWISS 85 | 17 SEVENTEEN JEWELS UNADJUSTED | None | No | Unknown | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | NFS | |||||
2453228 | 885103/02 | 20,181,024 | 01-01-1970 | Auction | Applied | UNIVERSAL GENEVE COMPAX | Uppercase | SWISS T | Silver | Blue | Std w lume | Std w lume | Std w lume | Midsize w lume | Midsize w lume | Midsize w lume | At 3-6-9 | Standard | Standard | Shield | Tachymetre | Unknown | Plain | STAINLESS STEEL SWISS 885103/02 2453228 | None | UG logo ACIER INOXYDABLE SWISS HF logo | None | Valjoux 72 | UNIVERSAL GENEVE SWISS 85 | Unknown | Unknown | No | Unknown | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | None | None | None | 21,250.00 | Sold | ||||||||||||
2453243 | 885103/02 | 20,160,401 | 01-04-2016 | Dealer | Applied | UNIVERSAL GENEVE COMPAX | Uppercase | SWISS T | Silver | Blue | Std w lume | Std w lume | Std w lume | Midsize w lume | Midsize w lume | Midsize w lume | At 3-6-9 | Standard | Standard | U-only | Tachymetre | Unknown | Plain | 885103/02 2453243 | None | UG logo ACIER INOXYDABLE SWISS HF logo | None | Valjoux 72 | UNIVERSAL GENEVE SWISS 85 | 17 SEVENTEEN JEWELS UNADJUSTED | None | No | Unknown | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | No | No | No | Sold | |||||||||||||
2453248 | 885103/02 | 20,190,709 | 09-07-2019 | Dealer | Printed | UNIVERSAL GENEVE COMPAX | Uppercase | SWISS T 25 | Black | Black | Std w lume | Std w lume | Std w lume | Thick with lume | Thick with lume | Thick with lume | At 3-6-9 | Standard | Standard | Shield | Tachymetre | Unknown | Plain | STAINLESS STEEL SWISS 885103/02 2453248 | None | UG logo ACIER INOXYDABLE SWISS HF logo | Black ink maybe 17 | Valjoux 72 | UNIVERSAL GENEVE SWISS 85 | 17 SEVENTEEN JEWELS UNADJUSTED | None | N/A | N/A | UG? | N/A | N/A | N/A | No | No | No | 26,500.00 | Sold | ||||||||||||
2453255 | 885103/02 | 20,151,216 | 01-01-1970 | Auction | 1966 | Applied | UNIVERSAL GENEVE COMPAX | Uppercase | SWISS T | Silver | Blue | Std w lume | Std w lume | Std w lume | Midsize w lume | Midsize w lume | Midsize w lume | At 3-6-9 | Standard | Standard | Shield | Tachymetre | Signed | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Valjoux 72 | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Yes | No | 47,500.00 | Sold | |||||||||||
2453259 | 885103/02 | 20,160,127 | 01-01-1970 | Private | Applied | UNIVERSAL GENEVE COMPAX | Uppercase | SWISS T | Silver | Blue | Std w lume | Std w lume | Std w lume | Midsize w lume | Midsize w lume | Midsize w lume | At 3-6-9 | Standard | Standard | Unknown | Tachymetre | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | No | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | No | No | No | NFS | |||||||||||||
2453260 | 885103/02 | 20,210,914 | 01-01-1970 | Private | Applied | UNIVERSAL GENEVE COMPAX | Uppercase | SWISS T | Silver | Blue | Std w lume | Std w lume | Std w lume | Midsize w lume | Midsize w lume | Midsize w lume | At 3-6-9 | Standard | Standard | Shield | Tachymetre | Unknown | Plain | STAINLESS STEEL SWISS 885103/02 2453260 | None | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | N/A | N/A | GF | Unknown | Pointed U (no box) | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | FS | |||||||||
2453303 | 885103/02 | 20,190,320 | 01-01-1970 | Dealer | Applied | UNIVERSAL GENEVE COMPAX | Uppercase | SWISS T | Silver | Blue | Std w lume | Std w lume | Std w lume | Midsize w lume | Midsize w lume | Midsize w lume | At 3-6-9 | Standard | Standard | Unknown | Tachymetre | Unknown | Plain | STAINLESS STEEL SWISS 885103/02 2'453'303 | None | Unknown | Unknown | Valjoux 72 | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | No | N/A | Double-grain (GF?) | N/A | Pointed U in corner, no surrounding | "Correct" but I see UM endlinks | No | No | No | ||||||||||||||
2453311 | 885103/02 | 20,170,506 | 06-05-2017 | Private | Applied | UNIVERSAL GENEVE COMPAX | Uppercase | SWISS T | Silver | Blue | Std w lume | Std w lume | Std w lume | Midsize w lume | Midsize w lume | Midsize w lume | At 3-6-9 | Standard | Standard | U-only | Tachymetre | Unknown | Plain | ??? [no?] 885103/02 2453xxx | None | UG logo ACIER INOXYDABLE SWISS HF logo | 2 sets of scratching for service (?), one looks like from 75 | Valjoux 72 | UNIVERSAL GENEVE SWISS 85 | SEVENTEEN 17 JEWELS UNADJUSTED SWISS | Unknown | No | N/A | GF | 1/69 (later) | Pointed U in corner, no surrounding | UW | White square with blue text | Light blue with gold text, rounded U in square | Unknown | 35,000.00 | Sold | ||||||||||||
2453331 | 885103/02 | 20,190,612 | 12-06-2019 | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | NFS | ||||||||||||||
2543331 | 885103/02 | 20,180,606 | 06-06-2018 | Private | Applied | UNIVERSAL GENEVE COMPAX | Uppercase | SWISS T | Silver? | Unknown | Std w lume | Std w lume | Std w lume | Thin | Thin | Thin | At 3-6-9 | Standard | Standard | Shield | Tachymetre | Unknown | Unknown | STAINLESS STEEL SWISS 885103/02 2543331 (unknown if ') | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | UNIVERSAL GENEVE SWISS 85 | Unknown | Unknown | No | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | NFS | |||||||||||||
2568704 | 885103/01? | 20,210,724 | 01-01-1970 | Auction | 1963 | Printed | UNIVERSAL GENEVE COMPAX | Uppercase | SWISS T 25 | Black | Black | Std w lume | Std w lume | Std w lume | Midsize w lume | Midsize w lume | Midsize w lume | At 3-6-9 | Standard | Standard | Plain | Tachymetre | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | N/A | N/A | GF | Unknown | Pointed U (no box) | Unknown | No | No | No | Sold | ||||||||||||
2569079 | ![]() |
20,210,402 | 02-04-2021 | Private | 1960 | Unknown | Unknown | Printed | UNIVERSAL GENEVE COMPAX | Uppercase | SWISS T 25 | Black? | Black? | Std w lume | Std w lume | Std w lume | Thick with lume | Thick with lume | Thick with lume | At 3-6-9 | Standard | Standard | U-only | FS | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
2569089 | 885103/02 | 20,171,024 | 01-01-1970 | Auction | Printed | UNIVERSAL GENEVE COMPAX | Uppercase | SWISS T 25 | Black | Black | Std w lume | Std w lume | Std w lume | Thick with lume | Thick with lume | Thick with lume | At 3-6-9 | Standard | Standard | No logo | Tachymetre | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Valjoux 72 | UNIVERSAL GENEVE 85 | Unknown | TJ | No | Unknown | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | No | No | No | 23,750.00 | Sold | ||||||||||||
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885103/02 | 20,200,710 | 10-07-2020 | Auction | c 1967 | Printed | UNIVERSAL GENEVE COMPAX | Uppercase | SWISS T 25 | Black | Black | Std w lume | Std w lume | Std w lume | Thick with lume | Thick with lume | Thick with lume | At 3-6-9 | Standard | Standard | U-only | Tachymetre | No logo | Plain | STAINLESS STEEL SWISS 885103/02 2'569'155 (?) | None | Unknown | Unknown | Valjoux 72 | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | No | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | 22,581.00 | Sold | ||||||||||
2569155 | 885103/02 | 20,141,117 | 01-01-1970 | Dealer | Printed | UNIVERSAL GENEVE COMPAX | Uppercase | SWISS T 25 | Black | Black | Std w lume | Std w lume | Std w lume | Thick with lume | Thick with lume | Thick with lume | At 3-6-9 | Standard | Standard | U-only | Tachymetre | No logo | Plain | STAINLESS STEEL SWISS 885103/02 2'569'155 (?) | None | Unknown | Unknown | Valjoux 72 | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | No | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Sold | |||||||||||||
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885103/02 | 20,211,027 | 01-01-1970 | Auction | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Printed | UNIVERSAL GENEVE COMPAX | Uppercase | Unknown | Black | Black | Std w lume | Std w lume | Std w lume | Thick with lume | Thick with lume | Thick with lume | At 3-6-9 | Standard | Standard | U-only | Tachymetre | Unknown | Plain | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | No | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | No | No | No | No | No | No | No | FS | |||||
2569258 | 885103/02 | 20,161,221 | 01-01-1970 | Dealer | Printed | UNIVERSAL GENEVE COMPAX | Uppercase | SWISS T 25 | Black | Black | Std w lume | Std w lume | Std w lume | Thick with lume | Thick with lume | Thick with lume | At 3-6-9 | Standard | Standard | U-only | Tachymetre | Unknown | Plain | 885103/02 2569258 | None | [all very odd] UG logo ACIER INOXYDABLE SWISS HF logo | None | Valjoux 72 | UNIVERSAL GENEVE 85 | SEVENTEEN 17 JEWELS UNADJUSTED SWISS | TJ? | UG | Pointed U | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Sold | |||||||||||||
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885103/02 | 20,200,420 | 01-01-1970 | Dealer | Printed | UNIVERSAL GENEVE COMPAX | Uppercase | SWISS T 25 | Black | Black | Std w lume | Std w lume | Std w lume | Thick with lume | Thick with lume | Thick with lume | At 3-6-9 | Standard | Standard | U-only | Tachymetre | Signed | Plain | 885103/02 2'569'297 | None | UG logo ACIER INOXYDABLE SWISS HF logo | None | Valjoux 72 | UNIVERSAL GENEVE SWISS 85 | SEVENTEEN 17 JEWELS UNADJUSTED SWISS | None | No | Thick U | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | Red with gold lines, tan interior | Yes | No | No | No | No | No | FS | ||||||||
2569513 | Unknown | 20,200,507 | 07-05-2020 | Private | Printed | UNIVERSAL GENEVE COMPAX | Uppercase | SWISS T 25 | Black | Black | Std w lume | Std w lume | Std w lume | Thick with lume | Thick with lume | Thick with lume | At 3-6-9 | Standard | Standard | U-only | Tachymetre | Unknown | Can't see, but says is there | None | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | N/A | Pointed U | GF DGBOR | 1/69 | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Sold | |||||||||||||
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885103/02 | 20,200,322 | 01-01-1970 | Dealer | Printed | UNIVERSAL GENEVE COMPAX | Uppercase | SWISS T 25 | Black | Black | Std w lume | Std w lume | Std w lume | Thick with lume | Thick with lume | Thick with lume | At 3-6-9 | Standard | Standard | U-only | Tachymetre | Signed | Plain | Sold | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
2569571 | 885103/02 | 20,180,529 | 01-01-1970 | Auction | Printed | UNIVERSAL GENEVE COMPAX | Uppercase | SWISS T 25 | Black | Black | Std w lume | Std w lume | Std w lume | Thick with lume | Thick with lume | Thick with lume | At 3-6-9 | Standard | Standard | Unknown | Tachymetre | Signed | Plain | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Valjoux 72 / UG 85 | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | No | N/A | GF | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | No | No | No | 28,678.00 | Sold | ||||||||||||
2569623 | 885103/02 | 20,180,519 | 01-01-1970 | Auction | Printed | UNIVERSAL GENEVE COMPAX | Uppercase | SWISS T 25 | Black | Black | Std w lume | Std w lume | Std w lume | Thick with lume | Thick with lume | Thick with lume | At 3-6-9 | Standard | Standard | U-only | Tachymetre | Signed | Plain | None? | None | UG logo ACIER INOXYDABLE SWISS HF logo | Blue ink with etching: 201722930 (?) | Valjoux 72 | UNIVERSAL GENEVE 85 | Unknown | Unknown | Thick U | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | White long with blue interior | None | None | 21,135.00 | Sold | |||||||||||||
2569647 | 885103/02 | 20,190,617 | 01-01-1970 | Private | Unknown | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
2569697 | 885103/02 | 20,181,119 | 01-01-1970 | Dealer | Printed | UNIVERSAL GENEVE COMPAX | Uppercase | SWISS T 25 | Black | Black | Std w lume | Std w lume | Std w lume | Thick with lume | Thick with lume | Thick with lume | At 3-6-9 | Standard | Standard | U-only | Tachymetre | Signed | Plain | 885103/02 2'569'697 | None | UG logo ACIER INOXYDABLE SWISS HF logo | Unknown | Valjoux 72 | UNIVERSAL GENEVE SWISS 85 | 17 SEVENTEEN JEWELS UNADJUSTED | Can't tell | No | N/A | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Plain | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | NFS | |||||||||||||
2569711 | 885103/02 | 20,161,113 | 01-01-1970 | Auction | Printed | UNIVERSAL GENEVE COMPAX | Uppercase | SWISS T 25 | Black | Black | Std w lume | Std w lume | Std w lume | Thick with lume | Thick with lume | Thick with lume | At 3-6-9 | Standard | Standard | U-only | Tachymetre | Unknown | Plain | Unknown | Unknown | None | None | Valjoux 72 | UNIVERSAL GENEVE 85 | SEVENTEEN 17 JEWELS UNADJUSTED SWISS | Unknown | No | Unknown | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | No | No | No | 20,328.00 | Sold | ||||||||||||
2569799 | 885103/02 | 20,210,301 | 01-03-2021 | Dealer | Printed | UNIVERSAL GENEVE COMPAX | Uppercase | SWISS T 25 | Black | Black | Std w lume | Std w lume | Std w lume | Thick with lume | Thick with lume | Thick with lume | At 3-6-9 | Standard | Standard | U-only | Tachymetre | Unknown | Plain | 885103/02 2'569'799 | None | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | No | N/A | GF | Unknown | Pointed U (no box) | UP? | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | NFS | |||||||||
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885103/02 | 20,200,710 | 10-07-2020 | Auction | 1967 | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Printed | UNIVERSAL GENEVE COMPAX | Uppercase | SWISS T 25 | Black | Black | Std w lume | Std w lume | Std w lume | Thick with lume | Thick with lume | Thick with lume | At 3-6-9 | Standard | Standard | U-only | Tachymetre | Unknown | Plain | 885103/02 2'569'836 | None | UG logo ACIER INOXYDABLE SWISS HF logo | Number of pen servicing 0802V KW08.2Z KW1042740953 | Can't tell | UNIVERSAL GENEVE 85 | SEVENTEEN 17 JEWELS UNADJUSTED SWISS | None | No | UG (not shown) | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | No | No | No | No | No | No | Yes | 24,194.00 | Sold | |||
2569859 | 885103/02 | 20,190,531 | 01-01-1970 | Dealer | Printed | UNIVERSAL GENEVE COMPAX | Uppercase | SWISS T | Silver | Blue | Std w lume | Std w lume | Std w lume | Thick with lume | Thick with lume | Thick with lume | At 3-6-9 | Standard | Standard | U-only | Pulsations | Unknown | Plain | ????? 885105/02 2'569'859 | None | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | No | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | None | None | None | Unknown | |||||||||||||
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885105/02 | 20,200,428 | 01-01-1970 | Dealer | Printed | UNIVERSAL GENEVE COMPAX | Uppercase | SWISS T 25 | Black | Black | Std w lume | Std w lume | Thin no lume | Thick with lume | Thick with lume | Thick with lume | At 3-6-9 | Standard | Standard | U-only | Pulsations | Unknown | Plain | STAINLESS STEEL 885105/02 2'569'872 | Unknown | UG logo ACIER INOXYDABLE SWISS HF logo | None | Valjoux 72 | UNIVERSAL GENEVE 85 | Can't tell | None | No | Unknown | Unmarked SGBOR | None | None (not UG) | Unknown | None | None | None | None | None | None | None | 28,825.00 | Sold | |||||||
2569881 | 885105/02 | 20,200,719 | 01-01-1970 | Private | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Printed | UNIVERSAL GENEVE COMPAX | Uppercase | SWISS T 25 | Black | Black | Std w lume | Std w lume | Std w lume | Thick with lume | Thick with lume | Thick with lume | At 3-6-9 | Standard | Standard | U-only | Pulsations | Signed | Plain | STAINLESS STEEL SWISS 885105/02 2'569'881 | In memory of Captain Grover M.Herman Jr 1945 | UG logo ACIER INOXYDABLE SWISS HF logo | Some blue pen, some etching near top and center right | Can't tell | UNIVERSAL GENEVE 85 | SEVENTEEN 17 JEWELS UNADJUSTED SWISS | None | N/A | N/A | GF | 1/69 | Ultrasonic U | No marks | None | None | None | None | None | None | Yes | Unknown | ||||||
3755301 | 885105/02 | 20,151,108 | 08-11-2015 | Auction | Printed | UNIVERSAL GENEVE COMPAX | Uppercase | SWISS T 25 | Black | Black | Std w lume | Std w lume | Std w lume | Thick with lume | Thick with lume | Thick with lume | At 3-6-9 | Standard | Standard | No logo | Tachymetre | Signed | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Valjoux 72 | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | No | N/A | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | No | 27,347.00 | Sold | ||||||||||||
2354713 ( was unknown_20210330) | 885103/02 | 20,210,410 | 10-04-2021 | Private | Applied | UNIVERSAL GENEVE COMPAX | Uppercase | SWISS T | Silver | Blue | Std w lume | Std w lume | Std w lume | Thin | Thin | Thin | At 3-6-9 | Standard | Standard | Tachymetre | Unknown | Plain | Can't see in images, but apparently 885103/02 2354713 | ECOLE MILITAIRE DE L'AIR M.S. MAJOR TELEC 1966 | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | No | No | No | No | No | No | No | NFS | ||||||||||
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885103/02 | 20,210,330 | 01-01-1970 | Private | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Applied | UNIVERSAL GENEVE COMPAX | Uppercase | SWISS T | Silver | Blue | Std w lume | Std w lume | Std w lume | Thin | Thin | Thin | At 3-6-9 | Standard | Standard | Shield | Tachymetre | Unknown | Plain | None? | ECOLE MILITAIRE DE L'AIR M.S. MAJOR TELEC 1966 | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | No | No | No | No | No | No | No | 22,866.00 | Sold | ||||
2354xxx_20200320 | 885103/02 | 20,200,320 | 01-01-1970 | Private | Applied | UNIVERSAL GENEVE COMPAX | Uppercase | SWISS T | Silver | Red | Dauphine w lume | Dauphine w lume | Std w lume | Thin | Thin | Thin | At 3-6-9 | Standard | Standard | Unknown | Tachymetre | Unknown | Plain | STAINLESS STEEL SWISS 885103/02 2354xxx | None | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | No | Unknown | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | No | No | No | No | No | No | No | NFS | |||||||||
235xxx_20180206 | 885103/02 | 20,180,206 | 06-02-2018 | Private | 1966 | Applied | UNIVERSAL GENEVE COMPAX | Uppercase | SWISS T | Silver | Blue | Std w lume | Std w lume | Std w lume | Thin | Thin | Thin | At 3-6-9 | Standard | Standard | Shield? | Tachymetre | Signed | Plain | STAINLESS STEEL SWISS 885103/02 235xxxx | None | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | No | Unknown | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | NFS | ||||||||||||
24120xx_20161214 | 885103/02 | 20,161,214 | 01-01-1970 | Dealer | Applied | UNIVERSAL GENEVE COMPAX | Uppercase | SWISS T | Silver | Blue | Std w lume | Std w lume | Std w lume | Thin | Thin | Thin | At 3-6-9 | Standard | Standard | Shield | Tachymetre | Signed | ?? | STAINLESS STEEL SWISS 885103/02 2'41'20xx (?) | None | UG logo ACIER INOXYDABLE SWISS HF logo | None | Valjoux 72 | UNIVERSAL GENEVE SWISS 85 | Unknown | Can't tell | No | UNIVERSAL stamp on side | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | No | No | No | Passed | |||||||||||||
2412xxx_20190619 | 885103/02 | 20,190,619 | 01-01-1970 | Dealer | Applied | UNIVERSAL GENEVE COMPAX | Uppercase | SWISS T | Silver | Blue | Std w lume | Std w lume | Std w lume | Thin | Thin | Thin | At 3-6-9 | Standard | Standard | Unknown | Tachymetre | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | No | Unknown | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | NFS | |||||||||||||
2412xxx_20200720 | 20,210,702 | 02-07-2021 | Private | Applied | UNIVERSAL GENEVE COMPAX | Uppercase | SWISS T | Silver | Blue | Std w lume | Std w lume | Std w lume | Thin | Thin | Thin | At 3-6-9 | Standard | Standard | Shield? | Tachymetre | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | No | Unknown | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | No | Yes | No | No | No | No | Yes | FS | ||||||||||
2412xxx_20200720 | 20,200,720 | 01-01-1970 | Private | Applied | UNIVERSAL GENEVE COMPAX | Uppercase | SWISS T | Silver | Blue | Std w lume | Std w lume | Std w lume | Thin | Thin | Thin | At 3-6-9 | Standard | Standard | Shield? | Tachymetre | Unknown | Plain | ??? 2'412'xxx? | None | UG logo ACIER INOXYDABLE SWISS HF logo | AA 10-19 | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | No | Unknown | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | No | No | No | No | No | No | No | NS | ||||||||||
241xxxx_20180320 | 885103/02 | 20,180,320 | 01-01-1970 | Dealer | Applied | UNIVERSAL GENEVE COMPAX | Uppercase | SWISS T | Silver | Black | Std w lume | Std w lume | Std w lume | Thin | Thin | Thin | At 3-6-9 | Standard | Standard | Shield | Tachymetre | Unknown | Plain | STAINLESS STEEL xxxx | None | UG logo ACIER INOXYDABLE SWISS HF logo | None | Valjoux 72 | UNIVERSAL GENEVE SWISS 85 | 17 SEVENTEEN JEWELS UNADJUSTED | There but can't tell | No | Unknown | N/A | N/A | Unknown | N/A | No | No | No | Sold | |||||||||||||
241xxxx_20181001 | 885103/02 | 20,181,001 | 01-10-2018 | Private | Applied | UNIVERSAL GENEVE COMPAX | Uppercase | SWISS T | Silver | Black | Std w lume | Std w lume | Std w lume | Thin | Thin | Thin | At 3-6-9 | Standard | Standard | Unknown | Tachymetre | Signed | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | No | N/A | GF | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | FS? | |||||||||||||
241xxxx_20191131 | 885103/02 | 20,191,131 | 01-01-1970 | Dealer | Applied | UNIVERSAL GENEVE COMPAX | Uppercase | SWISS T | Silver? | Blue? | Std w lume | Std w lume | Std w lume | Thin no lume | Thin no lume | Thin no lume | At 3-6-9 | Standard | Standard | Unknown | Tachymetre | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | N/A | N/A | Double grain | 1 67 | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Sold | ||||||||||||||
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885103/02 | 20,211,020 | 01-01-1970 | Auction | Printed | UNIVERSAL GENEVE COMPAX | Uppercase | SWISS T 25 | Black | Black | Std w lume | Std w lume | Std w lume | Midsize w lume | Midsize w lume | Midsize w lume | At 3-6-9 | Standard | Standard | U-only | Tachymetre | Unknown | Plain | ??? 2452865?55? | None | UG logo ACIER INOXYDABLE SWISS HF logo | ethings in various locations | Valjoux 72 | UNIVERSAL GENEVE SWISS 85 | 17 SEVENTEEN JEWELS UNADJUSTED | ?? | No | Unknown | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | No | No | No | No | No | No | No | FS | ||||||||
24533[28?] | 885103/02 | 20,190,620 | 01-01-1970 | Dealer | 1964 | Applied | UNIVERSAL GENEVE COMPAX | Uppercase | Unknown | Silver | Blue | Std w lume | Std w lume | Std w lume | Midsize w lume? | Midsize w lume? | Midsize w lume? | At 3-6-9 | Standard | Standard | Shield | Tachymetre | Unknown | Plain | Unknown | None | Unknown | Unknown | Valjoux 72 | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | No | Unknown | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Sold | ||||||||||||
2453xxx_20170619 | 885103/02 | 20,170,619 | 01-01-1970 | Dealer | Printed | UNIVERSAL GENEVE COMPAX | Uppercase | SWISS T 25 | Black | Black | Std w lume | Std w lume | Std w lume | Thick with lume | Thick with lume | Thick with lume | At 3-6-9 | Standard | Standard | U-only | Tachymetre | Unknown | Plain | STAINLESS STEEL SWISS 885103/02 2'453xxx | None | UG logo ACIER INOXYDABLE SWISS HF logo | None | Valjoux 72 | UNIVERSAL GENEVE 85 | SEVENTEEN 17 JEWELS UNADJUSTED SWISS | Unknown | No | N/A | UG? | N/A | U rounded in square, but pointed in logo | Not UW | No | No | No | 24,500.00 | Sold | ||||||||||||
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885103/02 | 20,210,716 | 01-01-1970 | Dealer | 1967 | Applied | UNIVERSAL GENEVE COMPAX | Uppercase | SWISS T | Silver | Black | Std w lume | Std w lume | Std w lume | Midsize w lume | Midsize w lume | Midsize w lume | At 3-6-9 | Standard | Standard | Shield | Tachymetre | Unknown | Plain | STAINLESS STEEL SWISS 885103/02 2'453xxx | None | UG logo ACIER INOXYDABLE SWISS HF logo | IW971 56N 3/13P | Valjoux 72 | UNIVERSAL GENEVE SWISS 85 | SEVENTEEN 17 JEWELS UNADJUSTED SWISS | TJ | N/A | N/A | UG GF | Unknown | Unknown | UM (not UW) | No | No | No | No | No | No | No | FS | |||||||
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885103/02 | 20,200,501 | 01-05-2020 | Dealer | Printed | UNIVERSAL GENEVE COMPAX | Uppercase | SWISS T 25 | Black | Black | Std w lume | Std w lume | Std w lume | Thick with lume | Thick with lume | Thick with lume | At 3-6-9 | Standard | Standard | Thick U | Pulsations | Unknown | Plain | STAINLESS STEEL SWISS 885103/02 24xx334 | None | UG logo ACIER INCXYDABLE (C?) SWISS HF logo | Red stamping | Valjoux 72 | UNIVERSAL GENEVE 85 | SEVENTEEN 17 JEWELS UNADJUSTED SWISS | None | Unknown | Unknown | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | No | No | No | No | No | No | No | FS | ||||||||
24xxxxx_20170717 | 885103/02 | 20,170,717 | 01-01-1970 | Dealer | Applied | UNIVERSAL GENEVE COMPAX | Uppercase | SWISS T | Silver | Blue | Std w lume | Std w lume | Std w lume | Thin | Thin | Thin | At 3-6-9 | Standard | Standard | Unknown | Tachymetre | Unknown | Plain | 885103/02 24xxxxx | None | UG logo ACIER INOXYDABLE SWISS HF logo | None | Valjoux 72 | UNIVERSAL GENEVE SWISS 85 | 17 SEVENTEEN JEWELS UNADJUSTED | None | No | Unknown | Unknown | N/A | N/A | N/A | No | No | No | Sold | |||||||||||||
24xxxxx_20190313 | 885103/02 | 20,190,313 | 01-01-1970 | Dealer | Applied | UNIVERSAL GENEVE COMPAX | Uppercase | SWISS T | Silver | Blue | Std w lume | Std w lume | Std w lume | Thin | Thin | Thin | At 3-6-9 | Standard | Standard | Shield | Tachymetre | Signed | Plain | ???? 885103/02 2412xxx | None | UG logo ACIER INOXYDABLE SWISS HF logo | None | Valjoux 72 | UNIVERSAL GENEVE SWISS 85 | 17 SEVENTEEN JEWELS UNADJUSTED | None | Yes | Pointed U | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | No | No | No | Sold | |||||||||||||
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885103/02 | 20,200,309 | 09-03-2020 | Dealer | Applied | UNIVERSAL GENEVE COMPAX | Uppercase | SWISS T | Silver | Blue | Std w lume | Std w lume | Std w lume | Thick with lume | Thick with lume | Thick with lume | At 3-6-9 | Standard | Standard | Shield | Tachymetre | Unknown | Plain | [none?] 885103/02 24xxxxx | None | UG logo ACIER INOXYDABLE SWISS HF logo | Some etching - can't read | Valjoux 72 | UNIVERSAL GENEVE 85 | SEVENTEEN 17 JEWELS UNADJUSTED SWISS | None | No | Unknown | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | No | No | No | No | No | No | No | Sold | ||||||||
24xxxxx_20210325 | 885103/02 | 20,210,325 | 01-01-1970 | Dealer | Applied | UNIVERSAL GENEVE COMPAX | Uppercase | SWISS T | Silver | Blued? | Std w lume | Std w lume | Std w lume | Midsize w lume | Midsize w lume | Midsize w lume | At 3-6-9 | Standard | Standard | Shield | Tachymetre | Signed | Plain | ????? 885103/02 24xxxxxx | None | UG logo ACIER INOXYDABLE SWISS HF logo | None | Valjoux 72 | UNIVERSAL GENEVE SWISS 85 | SEVENTEEN 17 JEWELS UNADJUSTED SWISS | TJ | No | Pointed U | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | No | No | No | No | No | No | No | FS | |||||||||
2556797 - not correct | 885103/02 | 20,150,602 | 02-06-2015 | Dealer | Printed | UNIVERSAL GENEVE COMPAX | Uppercase | SWISS T 25 | Black | Black | Std w lume | Std w lume | Std w lume | Thick with lume | Thick with lume | Thick with lume | At 3-6-9 | Standard | Standard | Unknown | Tachymetre | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | No | Unknown | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | FS? | |||||||||||||
2568881_wrong | 885103/01? | 20,190,522 | 01-01-1970 | Dealer | 1969 | Printed | UNIVERSAL GENEVE COMPAX | Uppercase | SWISS T 25 | Black | Black | Std w lume | Std w lume | Std w lume | Midsize w lume | Midsize w lume | Midsize w lume | At 3-6-9 | Standard | Standard | Thick | Tachymetre | Unknown | Plain | 885103/01 [WRONG] 2'568'881 | None | UG logo ACIER INOXYDABLE SWISS HF logo | None | Valjoux 72 | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | No | Unknown | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | No | No | No | 35,280.00 | Sold | |||||||||||
2568xxx_20150624 | 885103/01 | 20,150,624 | 01-01-1970 | Dealer | Printed | UNIVERSAL GENEVE COMPAX | Uppercase | Unknown | Black | Black | Std w lume | Std w lume | Std w lume | Midsize w lume? | Midsize w lume? | Midsize w lume? | At 3-6-9 | Standard | Standard | Unknown | Tachymetre | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | No | N/A | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Sold | |||||||||||||
25699[?]77_20141117 | 885105/03 | 20,141,117 | 01-01-1970 | Dealer | Printed | UNIVERSAL GENEVE COMPAX | Uppercase | SWISS T 25 | Black | Black | Std w lume | Std w lume | Std w lume | Thick with lume | Thick with lume | Thick with lume | At 3-6-9 | Standard | Standard | U-only | Pulsations | Unknown | ??????? 88xxxxxx 2'569'x77 | None | Unknown | Unknown | Valjoux 72 | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | No | Unknown | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Sold | ||||||||||||||
2569xxx_20160713 | 885103/02 | 20,160,713 | 01-01-1970 | Dealer | Printed | UNIVERSAL GENEVE COMPAX | Uppercase | SWISS T 25 | Black | Black | Std w lume | Std w lume | Std w lume | Thick with lume | Thick with lume | Thick with lume | At 3-6-9 | Standard | Standard | Star | Tachymetre | Unknown | Plain | 885103/02 2'569'xxx | None | UG logo ACIER INOXYDABLE SWISS HF logo | 140 116 in pen | Valjoux 72 | UNIVERSAL GENEVE 85 | SEVENTEEN 17 JEWELS UNADJUSTED SWISS | None | No | Unknown | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | Long blue with fat logo | No | No | Sold | |||||||||||||
2569xxx_20180502 | 885103/02 | 20,170,901 | 01-09-2017 | Dealer | Printed | UNIVERSAL GENEVE COMPAX | Uppercase | SWISS T 25 | Black | Black | Std w lume | Std w lume | Std w lume | Thick with lume | Thick with lume | Thick with lume | At 3-6-9 | Standard | Standard | U-only | Tachymetre | Unknown | Plain | ????? [unknown - seems no] 885103/02 2'5xx'xxx | None | UG logo ACIER INOXYDABLE SWISS HF logo | None | Valjoux 72 | UNIVERSAL GENEVE 85 | 17 SEVENTEEN JEWELS UNADJUSTED | None | No | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Sold | |||||||||||||
2569xxx_20190113 | 885103/02 | 20,190,113 | 01-01-1970 | Private | Printed | UNIVERSAL GENEVE COMPAX | Uppercase | SWISS T 25 | Black | Black | Std w lume | Std w lume | Std w lume | Thick with lume | Thick with lume | Thick with lume | At 3-6-9 | Standard | Standard | Unknown | Tachymetre | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | No | Unknown | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | NFS | |||||||||||||
2569xxx_20190212 | 885103/02 | 20,190,212 | 12-02-2019 | Dealer | 1960 | Printed | UNIVERSAL GENEVE COMPAX | Uppercase | SWISS T 25 | Black | Black | Std w lume | Std w lume | Std w lume | Thick with lume | Thick with lume | Thick with lume | At 3-6-9 | Standard | Standard | U-only | Tachymetre | Unknown | Plain | ??????? 885103/02 2'569'xxx | None | UG logo ACIER INOXYDABLE SWISS HF logo | None | Valjoux 72 | UNIVERSAL GENEVE 85 | SEVENTEEN 17 JEWELS UNADJUSTED SWISS | None | No | N/A | GF | Unknown | N/A | No marks | Red w/gold | Lt green w/gold, blank | No | 36,000.00 | Sold | |||||||||||
2569xxx_20190417 | 885105/02 | 20,190,417 | 01-01-1970 | Dealer | Printed | UNIVERSAL GENEVE COMPAX | Uppercase | SWISS T 25 | Black | Black | Std w lume | Std w lume | Std w lume | Thick with lume | Thick with lume | Thick with lume | At 3-6-9 | Standard | Standard | U-only | Pulsations | Unknown | Plain | STAINLESS STE… | IN MEMORY OF CAPTAIN GROVER M HERMAN JR 1945 | UG logo ACIER INOXYDABLE SWISS HF logo | 1479' in pen | Valjoux 72 | UNIVERSAL GENEVE 85 | SEVENTEEN 17 JEWELS UNADJUSTED SWISS | None | No | N/A | JB Champion (for UG) | Unknown | U rounded, in square | One wrong, though I don't see any stamps | Unknown | No | No | 32,770.00 | Sold | ||||||||||||
2569xxx_20191026 | 885103/02 | 20,191,026 | 01-01-1970 | Dealer | Printed | UNIVERSAL GENEVE COMPAX | Uppercase | SWISS T 25 | Black | Black | Std w lume | Std w lume | Std w lume | Thick with lume | Thick with lume | Thick with lume | At 3-6-9 | Standard | Standard | U-only | Tachymetre | Signed | Plain | Unknown | Norris E Leigh | UG logo ACIER INOXYDABLE SWISS HF logo | 176370 (?) etched and other etching | Valjoux 72 | UNIVERSAL GENEVE SWISS 85 | SEVENTEEN 17 JEWELS UNADJUSTED SWISS | Unknown | No | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | 26,950.00 | Sold | ||||||||||||
2569xxx_20210521 | 885103/02 | 20,210,521 | 01-01-1970 | Dealer | 1970 | Unknown | Unknown | Printed | UNIVERSAL GENEVE COMPAX | Uppercase | SWISS T 25 | Black | Black | Std w lume | Std w lume | Std w lume | Thick with lume | Thick with lume | Thick with lume | At 3-6-9 | Standard | Standard | Shield | Tachymetre | Unknown | Plain | ??????? 885103/02 2'569'xxx | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | No | Unknown | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | Unknown | Unknown | None | None | None | None | None | FS | ||||||
256xxx_20190901 | 885103/02 | 20,190,901 | 01-09-2019 | Dealer | Printed | UNIVERSAL GENEVE COMPAX | Uppercase | SWISS T 25 | Black | Black | Std w lume | Std w lume | Std w lume | Thick with lume | Thick with lume | Thick with lume | At 3-6-9 | Standard | Standard | U-only | Tachymetre | Signed | Plain | STAINLESS STEEL 885105/02 2'56xxxx | None | UG logo ACIER INOXYDABLE SWISS HF logo | None | Valjoux 72 | UNIVERSAL GENEVE SWISS 85 | SEVENTEEN 17 JEWELS UNADJUSTED SWISS | None | No | Later UG (wavy) | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | Red flattish box, gold interior top, red bottom material, square with U | Teal with gold lettering, square with U | No | ||||||||||||||
256xxxx_20200827 | 885103/02 | 20,200,827 | 01-01-1970 | Dealer | Printed | UNIVERSAL GENEVE COMPAX | Uppercase | SWISS T 25 | Black | Black | Std w lume | Std w lume | Std w lume | Thick with lume | Thick with lume | Thick with lume | At 3-6-9 | Standard | Standard | U-only | Tachymetre | Unknown | Plain | ??????? 885103/02 2'56x'xxx | None | UG logo ACIER INOXYDABLE SWISS HF logo | None | Valjoux 72 | UNIVERSAL GENEVE 85 | SEVENTEEN 17 JEWELS UNADJUSTED SWISS | TJ | No | Unknown | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | No | No | No | No | No | No | No | 32,000.00 | Sold | ||||||||
25xxxxx_20150123 | 885103/02 | 20,150,123 | 01-01-1970 | Dealer | Printed | UNIVERSAL GENEVE COMPAX | Uppercase | SWISS T 25 | Black | Black | Std w lume | Std w lume | Std w lume | Thick with lume | Thick with lume | Thick with lume | At 3-6-9 | Standard | Standard | U-only | Tachymetre | No logo | Plain | Can't see, says lightly there | None | Unknown | Unknown | Valjoux 72 | UNIVERSAL GENEVE 85 | SEVENTEEN 17 JEWELS UNADJUSTED SWISS | Unknown | No | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | ||||||||||||||
25xxxxx_20190105 | 885103/02 | 20,190,105 | 05-01-2019 | Dealer | Printed | UNIVERSAL GENEVE COMPAX | Uppercase | SWISS T 25 | Black | Black | Std w lume | Std w lume | Std w lume | Thick with lume | Thick with lume | Thick with lume | At 3-6-9 | Standard | Standard | U-only | Tachymetre | Unknown | Plain | ?????? 885103/02 2'5xxxxx | None | UG logo ACIER INOXYDABLE SWISS HF logo | None | Valjoux 72 | UNIVERSAL GENEVE 85 | SEVENTEEN 17 JEWELS UNADJUSTED SWISS | Unknown | No | Unknown | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | No | No | No | Sold | |||||||||||||
25xxxxx_20190205 | 885103/02 | 20,190,115 | 01-01-1970 | Dealer | Printed | UNIVERSAL GENEVE COMPAX | Uppercase | SWISS T 25 | Black | Black | Wrong (too long) | Wrong (too long) | Std w lume | Thick with lume | Thick with lume | Thick with lume | At 3-6-9 | Standard | Standard | U-only | Tachymetre | Signed | Plain | STAINLESS STEEL SWISS 885103/02 2'5xxxxx | None | UG logo ACIER INOXYDABLE SWISS HF logo | None | Valjoux 72 | UNIVERSAL GENEVE 85 | Unknown | PE? | No | UG (lines) | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | Red with gold interior | Blue with gold | Unknown | NFS | |||||||||||||
25xxxxx_20191218 | 885103/02 | 20,191,218 | 01-01-1970 | Dealer | 1967 per Extract | Applied | UNIVERSAL GENEVE COMPAX | Uppercase | SWISS T | Black | Black | Std w lume | Std w lume | Std w lume | Thick with lume | Thick with lume | Thick with lume | At 3-6-9 | Standard | Standard | Shield | Pulsations | Unknown | Unknown | STAINLESS STEEL SWISS ????? ?????? | Unknown | UG logo ACIER INOXYDABLE SWISS HF logo | None | Valjoux 72 | UNIVERSAL GENEVE SWISS 85 | 17 SEVENTEEN JEWELS UNADJUSTED | Can't tell | N/A | N/A | Small grains | Unknown | Shield outside, shield + UNIVERSAL GENEVE on inside | Unkonwn | None | None | None | 35,995.00 | Unknown | |||||||||||
unknown_20110914 | 885103/02 | 20,110,914 | 01-01-1970 | Private | Applied | UNIVERSAL GENEVE COMPAX | Uppercase | SWISS T 25 | Can't tell | Can't tell | Std w lume | Std w lume | Std w lume | Thick with lume | Thick with lume | Thick with lume | At 3-6-9 | Standard | Standard | Unknown | Tachymetre | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | NFS | |||||||||||||
unknown_20130120 | 885103/02 | 20,130,120 | 01-01-1970 | Private | Applied | UNIVERSAL GENEVE COMPAX | Uppercase | SWISS T | Silver | Blue | Std w lume | Std w lume | Std w lume | Midsize w lume | Midsize w lume | Midsize w lume | At 3-6-9 | Standard | Standard | U-only? | Tachymetre | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | No | Unknown | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | No | No | No | ||||||||||||||
unknown_20130120 | 885103/02 | 20,130,120 | 01-01-1970 | Private | Applied | UNIVERSAL GENEVE COMPAX | Uppercase | SWISS T | Silver | Blue | Std w lume | Std w lume | Std w lume | Midsize w lume | Midsize w lume | Midsize w lume | At 3-6-9 | Standard | Standard | Unknown | Tachymetre | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | No | Unknown | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Sold | |||||||||||||
unknown_20130523 | 885103/02 | 20,130,523 | 01-01-1970 | Private | Applied | UNIVERSAL GENEVE COMPAX | Uppercase | SWISS T | Silver | Blue | Std w lume | Std w lume | Std w lume | Midsize w lume | Midsize w lume | Midsize w lume | At 3-6-9 | Standard | Standard | Unknown | Tachymetre | Unknown | Unknown | [serial number] | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Valjoux 72 | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | No | Unknown | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | No | No | No | Sold | |||||||||||||
unknown_20131223 | 885103/02 | 20,131,223 | 01-01-1970 | Private | Applied | UNIVERSAL GENEVE COMPAX | Uppercase | SWISS T | Silver | Blue | Std w lume | Std w lume | Std w lume | Thin | Thin | Thin | At 3-6-9 | Standard | Standard | Unknown | Tachymetre | Signed | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Valjoux 72 | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | No | Unknown | No | N/A | N/A | N/A | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | NFS | |||||||||||||
unknown_20140207 | 885103/02 | 20,140,207 | 07-02-2014 | Private | Printed | UNIVERSAL GENEVE COMPAX | Uppercase | SWISS T 25 | Black | Black | Std w lume | Std w lume | Std w lume | Thick with lume | Thick with lume | Thick with lume | At 3-6-9 | Standard | Standard | U-only | Tachymetre | Signed | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | UG logo ACIER INOXYDABLE SWISS HF logo | None | Valjoux 72 | UNIVERSAL GENEVE 85 | SEVENTEEN 17 JEWELS UNADJUSTED SWISS | TJ? | No | Unknown | No | N/A | N/A | N/A | No | No | No | NFS | |||||||||||||
unknown_20140225 | 885103/02 | 20,140,225 | 01-01-1970 | Private | Applied | UNIVERSAL GENEVE COMPAX | Uppercase | SWISS T | Silver | Blue | Std w lume | Std w lume | Std w lume | Thin | Thin | Thin | At 3-6-9 | Standard | Standard | Unknown | Tachymetre | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | No | N/A | N/A | N/A | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | NFS | |||||||||||||
unknown_20140303 | 885103/02 | 20,190,303 | 03-03-2019 | Private | Printed | UNIVERSAL GENEVE COMPAX | Uppercase | SWISS T 25 | Black | Black | Std w lume | Std w lume | Std w lume | Midsize w lume | Midsize w lume | Midsize w lume | At 3-6-9 | Standard | Standard | U-only? | Tachymetre | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | N/A | N/A | Double-grain | Unknown | Pointed U (no box) | Unknown | Rectangular, fat-U, white outside and blue inside box | Unknown | Unknown | NFS | |||||||||||||
unknown_20141006 | 885103/02 | 20,141,006 | 06-10-2014 | Private | Applied | UNIVERSAL GENEVE COMPAX | Uppercase | SWISS T | Silver | Blue | Std w lume | Std w lume | Std w lume | Incorrect | Incorrect | Incorrect | At 3-6-9 | Standard | Standard | Unknown | Tachymetre | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | No | Unknown | No | N/A | N/A | N/A | No | No | No | NFS | |||||||||||||
unknown_20150319 | 885103/02 | 20,150,319 | 01-01-1970 | Dealer | Printed | UNIVERSAL GENEVE COMPAX | Uppercase | SWISS T 25 | Black | Black | Std w lume | Std w lume | Std w lume | Thick with lume | Thick with lume | Thick with lume | At 3-6-9 | Standard | Standard | No logo | Tachymetre | Unknown | Wrong | Wrong | Wrong | Wrong | Wrong | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | No | Unknown | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | No | No | No | 22,000.00 | Sold | ||||||||||||
unknown_20150731 | Unknown | 20,150,731 | 01-01-1970 | Private | Printed | UNIVERSAL GENEVE COMPAX | Uppercase | SWISS T 25 | Black | Black | Std w lume | Std w lume | Std w lume | Thick with lume | Thick with lume | Thick with lume | At 3-6-9 | Standard | Standard | Unknown | Pulsations | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | N/A | N/A | Double-grain | Unknown | Pointed U (no box) | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | ||||||||||||||
unknown_20160208 | Unknown | 20,160,208 | 08-02-2016 | Private | Applied | UNIVERSAL GENEVE COMPAX | Uppercase | Unknown | Silver | Blue | Std w lume | Std w lume | Std w lume | Midsize w lume | Midsize w lume | Midsize w lume | At 3-6-9 | Standard | Standard | Unknown | Tachymetre | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | No | Unknown | No | N/A | N/A | N/A | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | NFS | |||||||||||||
unknown_20160305 | 885103/02 | 20,160,305 | 05-03-2016 | Private | Printed | UNIVERSAL GENEVE COMPAX | Uppercase | SWISS T 25 | Black | Black | Std w lume | Std w lume | Std w lume | Thick with lume | Thick with lume | Thick with lume | At 3-6-9 | Standard | Standard | Unknown | Tachymetre | Unknown | Plain | Faint | None | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | No | Unknown | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | None | None | None | NFS | |||||||||||||
unknown_20160314 | 885103/02 | 20,160,314 | 01-01-1970 | Dealer | Applied | UNIVERSAL GENEVE COMPAX | Uppercase | SWISS T | Silver | Blue | Std w lume | Std w lume | Std w lume | Thick with lume | Thick with lume | Thick with lume | At 3-6-9 | Standard | Standard | Shield | Tachymetre | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Cal 130 | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | No? | Unknown | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | No | No | No | Sold | |||||||||||||
unknown_20160321 | 885103/02 | 20,160,321 | 01-01-1970 | Private | Printed | UNIVERSAL GENEVE COMPAX | Uppercase | SWISS T 25 | Black | Black | Std w lume | Std w lume | Std w lume | Thick with lume | Thick with lume | Thick with lume | At 3-6-9 | Standard | Standard | No logo | Tachymetre | Unknown | Plain | Looks polished - can't see any | None | Unknown | Unknown | Valjoux 72 | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | No | Unknown | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | No | No | No | NFS | |||||||||||||
unknown_20160417 | 885103/02 | 20,160,407 | 07-04-2016 | Private | Printed | UNIVERSAL GENEVE COMPAX | Uppercase | SWISS T 25 | Black | Black | Std w lume | Std w lume | Std w lume | Thick with lume | Thick with lume | Thick with lume | At 3-6-9 | Standard | Standard | U-only | Tachymetre | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Valjoux 72 | UNIVERSAL GENEVE 85 | SEVENTEEN 17 JEWELS UNADJUSTED SWISS | TJ | N/A | N/A | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | NFS | |||||||||||||
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885103/02 | 20,160,514 | 01-01-1970 | Auction | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Applied | UNIVERSAL GENEVE COMPAX | Uppercase | SWISS T | Silver | Silver | Stick w lume | Stick w lume | Stick with oval | Thin, painted tip? | Thin, painted tip? | Thin, painted tip? | At 3-6-9 | Standard | Standard | Unknown | Tachymetre | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | No | Unknown | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Sold | |||||
unknown_20160530 | 885103/02 | 20,160,530 | 01-01-1970 | Private | Applied | UNIVERSAL GENEVE COMPAX | Uppercase | Unknown | Silver | Blue | Std w lume | Std w lume | Std w lume | Thin | Thin | Thin | At 3-6-9 | Standard | Standard | Unknown | Tachymetre | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | No | B&S | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | NFS | |||||||||||||
unknown_20160603 | 885103/02 | 20,160,603 | 03-06-2016 | Private | Printed | UNIVERSAL GENEVE COMPAX | Uppercase | SWISS T 25 | Black | Black | Std w lume | Std w lume | Std w lume | Thick with lume | Thick with lume | Thick with lume | At 3-6-9 | Standard | Standard | Unknown | Tachymetre | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | No | Unknown | Added in some images | Added in some images | Added in some images | Added in some images | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | NFS | |||||||||||||
unknown_20161111 | 885103/02 | 20,161,111 | 11-11-2016 | Private | Applied | UNIVERSAL GENEVE COMPAX | Uppercase | SWISS T | Silver | Blue | Std w lume | Std w lume | Std w lume | Thin | Thin | Thin | At 3-6-9 | Standard | Standard | Not original | Tachymetre | Not original | Plain | xxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxx | None | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | No | Unknown | No | N/A | N/A | N/A | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | 16,307.00 | Sold | ||||||||||||
unknown_20161117 | 885103/02 | 20,161,127 | 01-01-1970 | Private | Applied | UNIVERSAL GENEVE COMPAX | Uppercase | SWISS T | Silver | Blue | Std w lume | Std w lume | Std w lume | Thin | Thin | Thin | At 3-6-9 | Standard | Standard | No logo | Tachymetre | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Cal 130 | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | No | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | NFS | |||||||||||||
unknown_20161210 | 885103/02 | 20,161,210 | 10-12-2016 | Private | Applied | UNIVERSAL GENEVE COMPAX | Uppercase | SWISS T | Silver | Blue | Std w lume | Std w lume | Std w lume | Midsize w lume | Midsize w lume | Midsize w lume | At 3-6-9 | Standard | Standard | Unknown | Tachymetre | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | N/A | N/A | Double-grain (GF?) | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | NFS | |||||||||||||
unknown_20161218 | 885103/02 | 20,161,218 | 01-01-1970 | Private | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | ||||||||||||||
unknown_20170106 | 885103/02 | 20,170,106 | 06-01-2017 | Private | Printed | UNIVERSAL GENEVE COMPAX | Uppercase | SWISS T 25 | Black | Black | Std w lume | Std w lume | Std w lume | Thick with lume | Thick with lume | Thick with lume | At 3-6-9 | Standard | Standard | Unknown | Tachymetre | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Sold | |||||||||||||
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Unknown | 20,170,208 | 08-02-2017 | Private | Printed | UNIVERSAL GENEVE COMPAX | Uppercase | Unknown | Black | Black | Std w lume | Std w lume | Thin no lume | Thick with lume | Thick with lume | Thick with lume | At 3-6-9 | Standard | Standard | Unknown | Pulsations | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | NFS | ||||||||
unknown_20170928 | 885103/02 | 20,170,928 | 01-01-1970 | Private | Applied | COMPAX | Uppercase | SWISS T | Silver | Blue | Std w lume | Std w lume | Std w lume | Thick with lume | Thick with lume | Thick with lume | At 3-6-9 | Standard | Standard | Unknown | Tachymetre | Unknown | Plain | None? | None | UG logo ACIER INOXYDABLE SWISS HF logo | None | Valjoux 72 | UNIVERSAL GENEVE SWISS 85 | 17 SEVENTEEN JEWELS UNADJUSTED | None | Yes | Angled and pointed ACERINOX SWISS | No | N/A | N/A | N/A | Black with red interior | Pink with gold | No | 20,520.00 | FS | ||||||||||||
unknown_20171024 | 885103/02 | 20,191,024 | 01-01-1970 | Auction | Applied | UNIVERSAL GENEVE COMPAX | Uppercase | SWISS T | Silver | Blue | Std w lume | Std w lume | Std w lume | Thick with lume | Thick with lume | Thick with lume | At 3-6-9 | Standard | Standard | Unknown | Tachymetre | Signed | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Valjoux 72 | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | No | Unknown | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | No | No | No | Not Sold | |||||||||||||
unknown_20171215 | 885103/02 | 20,171,215 | 01-01-1970 | Private | Applied | UNIVERSAL GENEVE COMPAX | Uppercase | SWISS T | Silver | Blue | Std w lume | Std w lume | Std w lume | Standard SILVER with lume | Standard SILVER with lume | Standard SILVER with lume | At 3-6-9 | Standard | Standard | Unknown | Tachymetre | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | No | Unknown | No | N/A | N/A | N/A | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | NFS | |||||||||||||
unknown_20180126 | 885103/02 | 20,180,126 | 01-01-1970 | Private | Applied | UNIVERSAL GENEVE COMPAX | Uppercase | SWISS T 25 | Can't tell | Can't tell | Std w lume | Std w lume | Std w lume | Thick with lume | Thick with lume | Thick with lume | At 3-6-9 | Standard | Standard | Unknown | Tachymetre | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | NFS | |||||||||||||
unknown_20180216 | 885103/02 | 20,180,216 | 01-01-1970 | Private | Printed | UNIVERSAL GENEVE COMPAX | Uppercase | SWISS T 25 | Black | Black | Std w lume | Std w lume | Std w lume | Thick with lume | Thick with lume | Thick with lume | At 3-6-9 | Standard | Standard | Unknown | Tachymetre | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | No | Unknown | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | None | None | None | NFS | |||||||||||||
unknown_20180409 | 885103/02 | 20,180,409 | 09-04-2018 | Dealer | Applied | UNIVERSAL GENEVE COMPAX | Uppercase | SWISS T | Black | Blue | Std w lume | Std w lume | Std w lume | Thin | Thin | Thin | At 3-6-9 | Standard | Standard | Unknown | Tachymetre | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | No | Unknown | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | Black with silver print, fat logo, blue print inside | No | No | Sold | |||||||||||||
unknown_20180515 | 885103/02 | 20,180,515 | 01-01-1970 | Private | Applied | UNIVERSAL GENEVE COMPAX | Uppercase | Unknown | Silver | Blue | Std w lume | Std w lume | Std w lume | Midsize w lume | Midsize w lume | Midsize w lume | At 3-6-9 | Standard | Standard | Unknown | Tachymetre | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | No | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | NFS | |||||||||||||
unknown_20180801 | 885105/02 | 20,180,801 | 01-08-2018 | Private | Printed | UNIVERSAL GENEVE COMPAX | Uppercase | SWISS T 25 | Black | Black | Std w lume | Std w lume | Std w lume | Thick with lume | Thick with lume | Thick with lume | At 3-6-9 | Standard | Standard | Unknown | Pulsations | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | No | Unknown | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | Square red/brown | No | No | NFS | |||||||||||||
unknown_20180919 | 885103/02 | 20,180,919 | 01-01-1970 | Private | Printed | UNIVERSAL GENEVE COMPAX | Uppercase | SWISS T 25 | Black | Black | Std w lume | Std w lume | Std w lume | Thick with lume | Thick with lume | Thick with lume | At 3-6-9 | Standard | Standard | Unknown | Tachymetre | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | No | Unknown | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | NFS | |||||||||||||
unknown_20181028 | 885103/02 | 20,181,028 | 01-01-1970 | Private | Applied | UNIVERSAL GENEVE COMPAX | Uppercase | Unknown | Black | Black | Std w lume | Std w lume | Std w lume | Midsize w lume | Midsize w lume | Midsize w lume | At 3-6-9 | Standard | Standard | Shield? | Tachymetre | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | No | Unknown | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | None | None | None | NFS | |||||||||||||
unknown_20181101 | 885103/02 | 20,181,101 | 01-11-2018 | Dealer | Printed | UNIVERSAL GENEVE COMPAX | Uppercase | SWISS T 25 | Black | Black | Std w lume | Std w lume | Std w lume | Thick with lume | Thick with lume | Thick with lume | At 3-6-9 | Standard | Standard | U-only | Tachymetre | Unknown | Plain | None | None | Unknown | Unknown | Valjoux 72 | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | N/A | N/A | GF | 4/68 | Pointed U in corner, no surrounding | UW | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Sold | |||||||||||||
unknown_20181112 | 885103/02 | 20,181,112 | 12-11-2018 | Private | Applied | UNIVERSAL GENEVE COMPAX | Uppercase | SWISS T | Silver | Blue | Std w lume | Std w lume | Std w lume | Midsize w lume | Midsize w lume | Midsize w lume | At 3-6-9 | Standard | Standard | Unknown | Tachymetre | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | No | Unknown | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | NFS | |||||||||||||
unknown_20181129 | 885103/02 | 20,181,129 | 01-01-1970 | Private | Printed | UNIVERSAL GENEVE COMPAX | Uppercase | SWISS T 25 | Black | Black | Std w lume | Std w lume | Std w lume | Thick with lume | Thick with lume | Thick with lume | At 3-6-9 | Standard | Standard | Unknown | Tachymetre | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | No | Unknown | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | NFS | |||||||||||||
unknown_20181210 | 885103/02 | 20,181,210 | 10-12-2018 | Dealer | Printed | UNIVERSAL GENEVE COMPAX | Uppercase | SWISS T 25 | Black | Black | Std w lume | Std w lume | Std w lume | Thick with lume | Thick with lume | Thick with lume | At 3-6-9 | Standard | Standard | No logo | Tachymetre | No logo | Unknown | Not legible | Unknown | UG logo ACIER INOXYDABLE SWISS HF logo | Some etching, can't tell what | Valjoux 72 | UNIVERSAL GENEVE 85 | SEVENTEEN 17 JEWELS UNADJUSTED SWISS | Unknown | No | None | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Sold | |||||||||||||
unknown_20190101 | 885103/02 | 20,190,101 | 01-01-2019 | Private | Applied | UNIVERSAL GENEVE COMPAX | Uppercase | Unknown | Silver | Blue | Std w lume | Std w lume | Std w lume | Midsize w lume | Midsize w lume | Midsize w lume | At 3-6-9 | Standard | Standard | Unknown | Tachymetre | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | No | Unknown | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | NFS | |||||||||||||
unknown_20190215 | 885105/02 | 20,190,215 | 01-01-1970 | Dealer | 1980 | Sold in Istanbul | Printed | UNIVERSAL GENEVE COMPAX | Uppercase | SWISS T 25 | Black | Black | Std w lume | Std w lume | Std w lume | Thick with lume | Thick with lume | Thick with lume | At 3-6-9 | Standard | Standard | U-only | Pulsations | Signed | Plain | Unknown | None | UG logo ACIER INOXYDABLE SWISS HF logo | blue pen: 925 Comm. Aulisa 00 | Valjoux 72 | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | No | Double-grain (GF?) | N/A | U rounded | UW | Square red/brown | While with blue | No | Sold | ||||||||||||
unknown_20190222 | 885103/02 | 20,190,222 | 01-01-1970 | Dealer | Applied | UNIVERSAL GENEVE COMPAX | Uppercase | Unknown | Silver | Blue | Std w lume | Std w lume | Std w lume | Thick with lume | Thick with lume | Thick with lume | At 3-6-9 | Standard | Standard | Unknown | Tachymetre | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | No | Unknown | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Sold | |||||||||||||
unknown_20190319 | Unknown | 20,190,319 | 01-01-1970 | Dealer | Applied | UNIVERSAL GENEVE COMPAX | Uppercase | SWISS T | Silver | Blue | Std w lume | Std w lume | Std w lume | Midsize w lume | Midsize w lume | Midsize w lume | At 3-6-9 | Standard | Standard | Unknown | Tachymetre | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | No | N/A | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | |||||||||||||
unknown_20190321 | 885103/02 | 20,190,321 | 01-01-1970 | Dealer | Printed | UNIVERSAL GENEVE COMPAX | Uppercase | SWISS T 25 | Black | Black | Std w lume | Std w lume | Std w lume | Thick with lume | Thick with lume | Thick with lume | At 3-6-9 | Standard | Standard | U-only | Tachymetre | Unknown | Plain | Polished (one direction)- none | None | UG logo ACIER INOXYDABLE SWISS HF logo | Unknown | Valjoux 72 | UNIVERSAL GENEVE 85 | SEVENTEEN 17 JEWELS UNADJUSTED SWISS | Unknown | No | "original UG" | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | Yes, unknown | No | No | Sold | |||||||||||||
unknown_20190430 | 885103/02 | 20,190,430 | 01-01-1970 | Dealer | Applied | UNIVERSAL GENEVE COMPAX | Uppercase | SWISS T | Silver | Blue | Std w lume | Std w lume | Std w lume | Thin | Thin | Thin | At 3-6-9 | Standard | Standard | No logo | Tachymetre | No logo | Plain | None - wrong or completely polished off | None | UG logo ACIER INOXYDABLE SWISS HF logo | None | Valjoux 72 | UNIVERSAL GENEVE SWISS 85 | 17 SEVENTEEN JEWELS UNADJUSTED | None | No | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | No | No | No | 13,812.00 | Sold | ||||||||||||
unknown_20190623 | 885103/02 | 20,190,623 | 01-01-1970 | Dealer | Applied | UNIVERSAL GENEVE COMPAX | Uppercase | SWISS T | Silver | Blue | Std w lume | Std w lume | Std w lume | Midsize w lume | Midsize w lume | Midsize w lume | At 3-6-9 | Standard | Standard | U-only | Tachymetre | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Valjoux 72 | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | No | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | FS | |||||||||||||
unknown_20190810 | 885103/02 | 20,190,810 | 10-08-2019 | Private | Printed | UNIVERSAL GENEVE COMPAX | Uppercase | SWISS T 25 | Black | Black | Std w lume | Std w lume | Std w lume | Thick with lume | Thick with lume | Thick with lume | At 3-6-9 | Standard | Standard | Unknown | Tachymetre | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | No | Unknown | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | NFS | |||||||||||||
unknown_20190822 | unknown_20190822 | 885105/02 | 20,190,822 | 01-01-1970 | Dealer | Printed | UNIVERSAL GENEVE COMPAX | Uppercase | SWISS T 25 | Black | Black | Std w lume | Std w lume | Std w lume | Thick with lume | Thick with lume | Thick with lume | At 3-6-9 | Standard | Standard | Unknown | Pulsations | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | N/A | N/A | Double grain | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | NFS | ||||||||
unknown_20190823 | 885103/02 | 20,190,823 | 01-01-1970 | Private | Applied | UNIVERSAL GENEVE COMPAX | Uppercase | SWISS T | Silver | Blue | Std w lume | Std w lume | Std w lume | Thin | Thin | Thin | At 3-6-9 | Standard | Standard | Unknown | Tachymetre | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | No | Unknown | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | NFS | |||||||||||||
unknown_20191008 | 885103/02 | 20,191,008 | 08-10-2019 | Dealer | Applied | UNIVERSAL GENEVE COMPAX | Uppercase | SWISS T | Silver | Blue | Std w lume | Std w lume | Std w lume | Thin | Thin | Thin | At 3-6-9 | Standard | Standard | Plain | Tachymetre | Unknown | Plain | None | None | UG logo ACIER INOXYDABLE SWISS HF logo | None | Valjoux 72 | UNIVERSAL GENEVE SWISS XX? | 17 SEVENTEEN JEWELS UNADJUSTED | None | N/A | N/A | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | None | No | No | No | Unknown | |||||||||||||
unknown_20191014 | 885103/02 | 20,191,014 | 01-01-1970 | Dealer | Printed | UNIVERSAL GENEVE COMPAX | Uppercase | SWISS T 25 | Black | Black | Std w lume | Std w lume | Std w lume | Thick with lume | Thick with lume | Thick with lume | At 3-6-9 | Standard | Standard | U-only | Tachymetre | Unknown | Plain | None | None | UG logo ACIER INOXYDABLE SWISS HF logo | None | Valjoux 72 | UNIVERSAL GENEVE 85 | questionable appearance: SEVENTEEN 17 JEWELS UNADJUSTED SWISS | Unknown | No | Unknown | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | No | No | No | Unknown | |||||||||||||
unknown_20191015 | 885103/02 | 20,191,015 | 01-01-1970 | Private | Printed | UNIVERSAL GENEVE COMPAX | Uppercase | Unknown | Black | Black | Std w lume | Std w lume | Std w lume | Thick with lume | Thick with lume | Thick with lume | At 3-6-9 | Standard | Standard | Unknown | Tachymetre | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | N/A | N/A | Double-grain | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | NFS | |||||||||||||
unknown_20191212 | 885103/02 | 20,191,212 | 12-12-2019 | Private | Printed | UNIVERSAL GENEVE COMPAX | Uppercase | SWISS T 25 | Black | Black | Std w lume | Std w lume | Std w lume | Thick with lume | Thick with lume | Thick with lume | At 3-6-9 | Standard | Standard | Unknown | Tachymetre | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | No | Unknown | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | NFS | |||||||||||||
unknown_20200114 | 885103/02 | 20,200,114 | 01-01-1970 | Dealer | Printed | UNIVERSAL GENEVE COMPAX | Uppercase | SWISS T 25 | Black | Black | Std w lume | Std w lume | Std w lume | Thick with lume | Thick with lume | Thick with lume | At 3-6-9 | Standard | Standard | Unknown | Tachymetre | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | No | Unknown | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | |||||||||||||||||
unknown_20200224 | 885103/02 | 20,200,417 | 01-01-1970 | Private | 19,500.00 | Sold | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Unknown | 20,200,224 | 01-01-1970 | Dealer | Printed | UNIVERSAL GENEVE COMPAX | Uppercase | SWISS T 25 | Black | Black | Std w lume | Std w lume | Std w lume | Thick with lume | Thick with lume | Thick with lume | At 3-6-9 | Standard | Standard | Unsigned, dome | Pulsations | Unknown | Plain | None (all missing or worn off) | None | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | UNIVERSAL GENEVE SWISS 85 | SWISS SEVENTEEN 17 JEWELS UNADJUSTED | Unknown | No | Unknown | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | None | None | None | None | None | None | None | 11,967.00 | Sold | |||||||
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885103/02 | 20,200,318 | 01-01-1970 | Unknown | Printed | UNIVERSAL GENEVE COMPAX | Uppercase | SWISS T 25 | Black | Black | Std w lume | Std w lume | Std w lume | Thick with lume | Thick with lume | Thick with lume | At 3-6-9 | Standard | Standard | Unknown | Tachymetre | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | No | Unknown | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | NFS | ||||||||
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885103/02 | 20,200,507 | 07-05-2020 | Dealer | Applied | UNIVERSAL GENEVE COMPAX | Uppercase | SWISS T | Silver | Blue | Std w lume | Std w lume | Std w lume | Midsize w lume | Midsize w lume | Midsize w lume | At 3-6-9 | Standard | Standard | Shield | Tachymetre | Signed | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | UG logo ACIER INC (?) XYDABLE SWISS HF logo | Valjoux 72 | UNIVERSAL GENEVE SWISS 85 | 17 SEVENTEEN JEWELS UNADJUSTED | None | No | Unknown | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | |||||||||
Unknown_20200710 | ?? | 20,200,710 | 10-07-2020 | Auction | c. 1967 | Unknown | Unknown | Printed | UNIVERSAL GENEVE COMPAX | Uppercase | SWISS T 25 | Black | Black | Std w lume | Std w lume | Std w lume | Thick with lume | Thick with lume | Thick with lume | At 3-6-9 | Standard | Standard | Unknown | Tachymetre | Unknown | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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885103/02 | 20,200,731 | 01-01-1970 | Dealer | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Applied | UNIVERSAL GENEVE COMPAX | Uppercase | SWISS T | Silver | Blue | Std w lume | Std w lume | Std w lume | Thin | Thin | Thin | At 3-6-9 | Standard | Standard | Shield | Tachymetre | Unknown | Plain | 16,721.40 | Ended early no bids | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
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885103/02 | 20,200,718 | 01-01-1970 | Auction | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Applied | UNIVERSAL GENEVE COMPAX | Uppercase | SWISS T | Silver | Blue | Std w lume | Std w lume | Std w lume | Thin | Thin | Thin | At 3-6-9 | Standard | Standard | Shield | Tachymetre | Unknown | Plain | 10,239.30 | Auction ended early | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
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20,210,217 | 01-01-1970 | Dealer | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Printed | UNIVERSAL GENEVE COMPAX | Uppercase | SWISS T 25 | Black? | Black? | Std w lume | Std w lume | Std w lume | Thick with lume | Thick with lume | Thick with lume | At 3-6-9 | Standard | Standard | Unknown | Tachymetre | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Sold | ||||||
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885103/02 | 20,210,812 | 12-08-2021 | Dealer | 1960 | Unknown | Unknown | Applied | UNIVERSAL GENEVE COMPAX | Uppercase | SWISS T | Black | Black | Std w lume | Std w lume | Std w lume | Thick with lume | Thick with lume | Thick with lume | At 3-6-9 | Standard | Standard | Unknown | Tachymetre | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | N/A | N/A | Double-grain | Unknown | Pointed U? | Unknown | No | No | No | No | No | No | No | FS |
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My research is focused on the “Nina Rindt” (primarily the Universal Geneve 885103/02, though I will touch upon the Pulsations reference in the Bezel section), as opposed to the 885103/01 “Evil Nina”, which is identified by its black dial and white registers.
The Nina (885103/02) was manufactured with two different dials, with the most noticeable difference being the Universal Geneve logo, which is either applied or printed.
Both dials are primarily white, with any print in black, including dial text (UNIVERSAL GENEVE, COMPAX, SWISS T (and 25 if applicable), and hour/minute/second and 1/5 second marks.
The registers are black with white numerals and marks. The running seconds has numerals (no marks) at 20, 40 and 60, and equal length marks each of the other 5 second increments. The 30-minute register has numerals (no marks) at 10, 20 and 30, with marks at the other minutes, primarily shorter marks, with a slightly longer mark at 5, and the longest marks at 3, 6 and 9 minutes. The 12-hour register has numerals (no marks) at 3, 6, 9 and 12, with marks of equal length for all other hours.
Both dials have the same luminous on the dial, which are at the outside end of most hour marks (1, 2, 4, 5, 7, 8, 10, 11) as a square. At 3, 6 and 9 the luminous is rectangular, replacing an hour mark. At 12 there are two square lume plots, side by side above and centered horizontally over the hour mark.
Differences in early and late dials:
Early dial: seen up to 2.4 serials
The first dial has an applied silver Universal Geneve logo. This raised reflective logo dial is known best to the community as the “Mark 1” version of the Nina. This dial pairs with specific set of main hands, detailed in the Main Hands section. These dials are marked “SWISS T” below the 6 o’clock index mark.
Later dial: seen from 2.5 serials and on
This dial, known as the “Mark 2”, has a printed black logo, with a “U” within a box. Per Universal Geneve, the manufacture made the switch from applied to printed logo on dial in 1971 [1] – actually I found it somewhat curious they would even provide this date, but not provide information on date of changes in register hand design or crown logo. This dial pairs with a different set of main hands (see Main Hands section for details). These Mk 2 dials are marked “SWISS T 25” below the 6 o’clock index mark.
There is one later ‘printed logo’ dial seen with a 2.4 serial on the caseback. This may have happened during the transition period, though I would be interested in seeing more later dials with 2.4 serial numbers before claiming this as correct.
Some claim that the 2.569 serials are more likely to develop tropical dials. While I have seen a few in the 2.569 range that are tropical, with such a low number it is difficult for me to say that I believe that range is more likely than 2.4 to be tropical, as we see a number on that batch as well.
[1] Per Universal Geneve (email, April 20, 2020).
The Universal Geneve 885103/02 came with only a tachymetre bezel, per Universal Geneve. [1] I see a handful of 885103/02 with pulsations bezel publicly, however.
Tachymetre bezel
The tachymetre bezel is the most common, and can be found across all serial ranges. It is graduated from 60 to 500 units.
The Universal Geneve 885105/02 came with only a pulsations bezel, per Universal Geneve. [1] I only see one 885105/02 with tachymetre bezel.
Pulsations bezel
The pulsations bezel is based on a 30 pulsations scale, and appears exclusively on pieces with serials at 2.5m and later.
I have seen one example of a Nina with pulsations dial and noted as reference 885105/03, though the stamping on the caseback to confirm that is the reference number cannot be seen. Given I have never seen another Nina example using this reference number, I’m inclined to believe this reference should have been listed as 885105/02.
There is discussion online that purports when a Nina dial was fitted with the pulsations bezel in the factory, it is reference 885108. However, no image is shown in this discussion, and I have never seen an image of a Nina with pulsations bezel and this serial number. Per Universal Geneve, “the reference Compax UG 885108 has a dark and light blue dial with three small white counters” and “has been produced only with a tachymeter blue bezel with a scale based on 1000.” [2]
[1] Universal Geneve, email April 30, 2020
[2] Universal Geneve, email May 5, 2020
The Nina used two sets of main hands, including hour, minute and chrono seconds, which were specific to certain Nina serial numbers and Nina dials.
Both combinations of hands have the same length for each type of hand. The hour hand extends nearly to the inside end of the hour mark, with a slight gap. The minute hand will extend all the way to between the end of the 1/5 second marks and the second/minute marks. The chronograph second hand tip extends all the way to the 1/5 second marks, the tail should not extend into the registers (hand should end at COMPAX when is at 0).
Early hands: seen up to 2.5 serials
The first set of main hands were silver, with lume, for both the hour and minute, and a blued chrono seconds hand, also with lume. These hands were used on the early Nina “Mk 1” dials.
Later hands: seen from 2.5 serials and on
Later hands were all black with lume, including hour, minute and chrono seconds. These were used exclusively on the later Nina dials.
I have seen two examples of watches with non-luminous chronograph seconds hand, both existing on pieces with pulsations bezels. The reference 885105/02 of these two has the highest serial of any Nina I have seen, so the possibility exists that Universal Geneve simply depleted the supply of luminous chronograph seconds hands and used a non-luminous hand.
Universal Geneve has stated that “885105/02 with a black pulse-counting bezel has been produced only with ‘Bâton’ hands with central fissure for tritium for registers, hour, minute and center chronograph.” As reference, the company has stated that the 885108 also “has been produced only with ‘Bâton’ hands with central fissure for tritium for registers, hour, minute and center chronograph.” [1]
[1] Universal Geneve, email May 5, 2020
There are three types of register hands used on the Universal Geneve 885103/02 “Nina Rindt”. All are painted white.
Thin hands
These hands, notably for Ninas, lack lume.
They are original to the earliest applied logo dials, with serials up to 2.41m. These “thin” hands extend all the way to the end of the register marks. We see these hands paired with applied logo SWISS T dials and silver main hands.
Midsize hands
The revolution begins! Lume in the register hands! I refer to this style as “midsize” hands, where the diameter of the hand around the post is wider than the remainder of the hand. Some call this “tapered”, but the width of the hand as it extends from the post is the same all the way to the tip. The lume is less than 1/3 of the length of the hand, and about 1/3 as wide, rectangular in shape. These hands extend nearly all the way to the end of the marks, though some images seem to indicate they don’t quite cover the entire mark. We see these hands in 2.45m serials, and can be found with applied logo SWISS T dials and silver main hands. For these midsize and the later thick register hands, Universal Geneve notes that pieces should all have “85” on the bridge [1].
Thick hands
Ninas, and other Universal Geneve pieces, are often known best for this “thick” hand, where the width of the hand is the same surrounding the post all the way to the tip (so the shape is a rectangle), and has lume as well. The lume is 1/3 of the length of the hand, and about 1/3 as wide, and again, rectangular in hand shape. These “thick” hands extend nearly all the way to the end of the marks, though some images seem to indicate they don’t quite cover the entire mark. We see the thick register hands in 2.5m serials. We see these hands paired with printed logo SWISS T 25 dials and black main hands.
These should all have “85” engraving on the movement [1].
These thick hands are very difficult to source. The last set seen was in 2019 on eBay, at $1,090 for all three. Ouch.
Universal Geneve does not provide date information on the shift between different hand styles, so we are left to make estimates based upon known Extract and original owner information [1].
[1] Universal Geneve, email April 17, 2020
There are two main crown designs original to the Universal Geneve 885103/02 “Nina Rindt”.
Early pieces feature the “shield” design, with a pointed bottom to the shield and U within, as shown in the above image, top row. This version appears up to a 2.5m serial, and is broken into two versions, those with a ridge at the edge and featuring smaller knurling (above top left image, 2.4) and those without ridge and less knurling (top right, 2.5).
In the second design the “U” stands on its own (above bottom left image). This version appears from 2.4m and later, and does have some crossover with the shield crown during the point of transition (2.4-2.5m). There may have been an extended period of transition to these crowns, or perhaps some of the 2.4m pieces have had their crowns replaced with this later crown design. When contacted, Universal Geneve deferred on providing information on the date of the shift from shield to U-only logo [1].
On occasion we will see a “fat” Universal logo (above, bottom right image). This logo is also referenced on Omegaforums via Universal Watch Geneve by Pietro Sala, as in the period for the Nina (1960s), in between the shield and U-only logos. However, I believe this is not correct, and rather the design is a later logo (not the 1960 period shown), and is not original to the Universal Geneve 885103/02. As an example, we see the U-only logo on the early Golden and White Shadows with serial numbers in the 2.6-2.9m serial range (examples such as 2.6 and 2.97m). We then see the “fat” logo on pieces with serials in the later 3.0-3.5m serial range.
Of course, we also see replacement crowns with no logo. These are not original to the 885103/02.
[1] Per Universal Geneve (email April 17, 2020), these documents are confidential.
The casebacks of all Universal Geneve “Nina Rindt” are flat, with stamping/engraving, which are often worn and can be difficult to read.
There are two exterior caseback designs for the UG 885103/02. Both versions have the reference number (as 885103/02), with the serial number below at the “base”.
These is a very wide range of stamping/etching appearance for the reference and serial number. Some I believe were likely etched later and are not original to the watch, and perhaps the same for some stamping. Some will have a mark (‘) to break up the serial number (as with 2’453’303), and some will not (2569258).
Some casebacks feature the text STAINLESS STEEL (top line) and SWISS (just below), centered at the “top” of the back of the case (in line above the reference and serial). We see pieces both with and without this text within the same range, and I haven’t been able to determine when it appears.
I have not seen a relationship between when the mark is included within the serial number, as discussed above, and when the STAINLESS STEEL SWISS text is included. Do not read into the below that STAINLESS STEEL SWISS text always has serial numbers with an apostrophe, or that those without the STAINLESS STEEL SWISS text have serials without an apostrophe.
The inside caseback design is the same across all pieces. They are stamped with, horizontally aligned: the Universal Geneve shield logo (near the top), empty space in the center of the back, then ‘ACIER INOXYDABLE’ (small text), ‘SWISS’ (larger text), and finally the Huguenin Freres logo. The lowest serials (2.41) seem to have somewhat distinctive concentric circles within the caseback as well.
The Universal Geneve 885103/02 is powered by a standard Valjoux 72, named the Universal Geneve Calibre 85. The only differences between the Cal 85 and the Valjoux 72 are the engraving on the movement. The Cal 85 employs a flat balance spring.
Within the Nina we see a few different engraving designs:
1. On the bridge, UNIVERSAL GENEVE always, with SWISS appearing just below for serials up to 2.45m (roughly above in line with the screw). For most, 85 is engraved below the text and screw, indicating UG Calibre 85. On some case numbers 2.35 and earlier I have seen 130 engraved – see bottom of this page for details.
2. On the train gear bridge, engraved is either
a. 17 SEVENTEEN JEWELS UNADJUSTED (top of letters is at case edge). No SWISS.
b. SEVENTEEN, and on the row below, 17 JEWELS (bottom of letters at the case edge). Then UNADJUSTED below the screw, and SWISS above the screw.
I have seen each set of train gear bridge engravings on both early and late serials. Unfortunately, with relatively few movement images (please contact me if you have some!), it is difficult to find a pattern.
About the Universal Geneve Cal 130
I have seen images of Cal 130s on some early Universal Geneve 885103/02 (and a Universal Geneve 885103/01 caseback watch with a white dial), though this is not unexpected as the Cal 130 preceded the Cal 85, and we see the Cal 130 appear on the earlier Universal Geneve 885103/01s (“Evil Nina”). Universal Geneve confirms that the Cal 130 was used in some “early” 885103/02 pieces (I take “earlier” to imply a serial of 2.35 and possibly, though I have not seen, on 2.41 pieces), with the bridge engraved “130” in the mid-1960s, and “some years later” the 85 bridge [1]. I will include a 885103/02 Cal 130 image when I find one (if you have one, please contact me. The Cal 130 employs a Breguet hairsping.
[image to come]
[1] Universal Geneve (email April 17, 2020).
The Universal Geneve 885103/02 “Nina Rindt” can be found on one of two bracelet and clasp designs, as well as a leather strap.
Bracelet
Earlier pieces can be found paired with a Gay Freres double-grain beads of rice (DGBOR) bracelet, and clasp with shield logo design (see below). Given how few these are, it is difficult to say which, is any, are original to the watch.
The inside of the clasp is stamped
BREVETE STEELINOX
Followed by the Gay Freres logo and UG stamp
Then SWISSMADE
And lastly, the quarter (1-4) and last two digits of bracelet production.
On later pieces we see the clasp with logo of the U-only, within a box, paired with a bracelet that is not exactly double-grain, but roughly similar in appearance.. The inside of the clasp is stamped
STAINLESS STEEL
MADE IN U.S.A.
followed by the Universal Geneve logo, with shield though.
I do not know the maker of this bracelet.
Endlinks stamped ‘UW’ are generally accepted as the correct links to pair with the Universal Geneve 885103/02, though we see a number of pieces using endlinks of different shapes that are not stamped.
I have seen examples of JB Champion bracelets in use with Ninas. Others have noted, however, that the JB Champion endlinks do not fit Compax cases. Given this, it is unclear whether those bracelets were original to the Nina, or simply an option that some owners purchased after acquiring their watch.
Strap
Another rare find is an original Universal Geneve strap and buckle. The original strap with be found in patterned black leather, with the pointed U logo on the buckle.
Top: OmegaForums, user Florent
Bottom: rarebirds
The Universal Geneve “Nina Rindt” functions in the same manner as other chronographs of the period.
It is manually wound, so you’ll need to wind the crown clockwise to wind the mainspring and power the watch, until you feel resistance. As the Nina is not an automatic watch, it can be overwound, so do not continue winding once it once you feel that tension.
To set the time, pull the crown slightly away from the case, and then turn clockwise.
There are two pushers, on the same side of the case as the crown, to operate and reset the chronograph. The top button will start and stop the chronograph (you do not need to reset the chronograph if you wish to start the chronograph again), and the lower button will reset all chronograph hands to 0. When the chronograph is running, the center chronograph seconds hand will continuously move, the minute register hand at 3 o’clock will advance once step each minute (so the register hand will always be on one of the minute marks), and the hour register hand at 6 o’clock will continuously advance.
For some a NOS Universal Geneve Nina just isn’t enough…it needs the original box and papers too.
It is tough to say which the correct pairing is, as:
– I don’t know anyone who is the original purchaser of a Universal Geneve 885103/02 that has box and papers. More often than not, collectors will reference that their box and papers are “original”. And they may have come with the watch, or are a later addition to the watch but of the period, I just haven’t been able to tell.
– It is not unusual for resellers to have used a different set of box and papers for different pieces – they did not arrive from the manufacturer as a specific set.
– Boxes/paper design over time will change.
It is, however, difficult for me to believe that a set would have originally been purchased with different logos (see the FAQ on the Universal Geneve Ninda Rindt crown for details on logo design over time) – for example, an applied logo dial with a (later) fat logo box.
To date I have seen paired:
– 2.4m with applied logo, U-only tall rectangular box (red top with black bottom, white with gold and red print interior), shield logo guarantee (pink with gold print) and shield logo other paper (blue with black print)
– 2.5m with printed logo, U-only cube box (red with gold print on exterior, dark yellow with black print interior)
– applied logo, shield rectangular deep box (black with gold print on exterior, red interior with gold print), shield logo guarantee (pink with gold print)
– printed logo, U-only cube box (red with gold print on exterior, dark yellow with black print interior), fat logo guarantee (white with blue print)
– 2.5m with printed logo, fat logo flat rectangular box (dark blue with white interior and blue print), U-only logo guarantee (blue with gold print), shield logo on another paper (blue with black print)
– 2.4m with applied logo, fat logo cube box (white with white interior and blue print), and U-only logo guarantee (blue with gold print)
– applied logo, fat cube box (black with silver print on exterior, white with blue print on interior)
The below price trend chart helps us understand what is happening in the market.
Caveats:
– The price points are often *asking* prices from dealers and forums, when final prices are not known (the asking price can often be 20% or more above the final sale price)
– There are some clear public sale outliers, one from Christie’s in 2015 for $47,500, a couple sales in the $30ks, and one from Phillips in 2018 for just under $29k. In 2021, with less quality vintage pieces available, we see a good sale at Christie’s Online for $27,500.
The filters in the table will drive both what is displayed in the table, as well as in the price trends chart.
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The below image is the only catalog page I have found for the Universal Geneve 885103/02. Date is unknown, though it features the earlier dial with applied logo. Source catalog is also unknown.
The page indicates a silvered dial, waterproof, and a COMPAX timepiece (in both French and English). Price of 264 Swiss Francs.
Image via @CajunTiger on omegaforums
In order to be thorough with my Universal Geneve 885103/02 serial number project, it only made sense to find out what happened to the piece that we see Nina Rindt wearing in images from the 1960s, and from whom the watch was given its nickname. First, a special thank you to Mrs. Nina Rindt for providing details on her watch, and allowing me to share images with the watch community.
The answer…Nina’s personal watch is still owned by her to this day. In looking at the images below of the watch, one immediately sees that the hour, minute and chronograph hands are not standard. Nina does not recall if the watch came originally with these hands, though she does not remember any service prior to one approximately 10 years ago, and does not recall the hands being changed at that time. We are left to guess why the hands are this configuration…perhaps prior to Nina receiving the watch Jochen asked the hands to be switched in order to make it easier to use at the track for timing? Maybe at service by a watchmaker that replaced them with what whatever extra hands were at their shop? Or perhaps, though extremely unlikely, it simply was built with these hands (this hand design can be seen on other Universal Geneve references of the era, including Polarouters/Polerouters, Tri-Compax, ). The serial for this watch, not easy to read, seems to be an early 885103/02, though lower serials have been seen with the “standard” hand configurations we see in the case number project.
If anyone out there knows of an image, hopefully in color to be able to tell when the chronograph hand color, from the 1960s that clearly shows the hands, hopefully in color to see the chronograph hand, please let me know. Here are the best images I have found of Nina Rindt wearing her UG 885103/02.
Nina’s personal Universal Geneve 885103/02 was given to her by her husband Jochen Rindt, the only Formula 1 driver ever to win the World Championship posthumously, on either her birthday or Christmas (she doesn’t recall which), and likely purchased in Switzerland. Those who have seen photos of Nina from the 1960s will notice that the watch is no longer on a cuff strap, long since replaced. And if you are really interested in the details…there are no box and papers. Then again, that only matters in learning more about the history of this particular watch as, since I know you will ask, it is not for sale.
I would be remiss if I didn’t also mention the watch nicknamed after her late husband. Jochen Rindt’s personal Heuer Autavia 2446M (60 minute bezel and 3rd execution dial, worn on a bracelet) was stolen when he had his accident in Monza.